FIND A CAR REVIEW

Advertisement

Ads by Google


Page 1 of 3 (34 items) 1 2 3 Next >
Sort posts Rate this thread
  • BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 3:43 PM

    What is it?


    BMW’s new junior off-roader – the X1. UK sales are slated to get underway around October, with local BMW officials hinting at a starting price of £25,000 for the entry level xDrive18i and rising to around £35,000 for the range topping xDrive28i.


    BMW is going for a broad reach with the X1, which will come with the option of three petrol and three diesel engines from the outset. The petrols include two 2.0-litre units with 143and 170bhp and a 258bhp 3.0-litre. On t...Read the full article

  • Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 3:46 PM

    For the money, I'd rather have a top of the range Qashqai (£23,800 before discounts).  At £25,000 for the base model you'd have to seriously want to have a BMW badge on your bonnet to pass up the Nissan.

    It's all about the twisties....
  • Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 4:12 PM

    So Jaguar dress their XJ up to look like a BMW in disguise and BMW return the compliment by stealing Jaguar's design for car camouflage?

    Lets face it, if this looks like the recent undisguised pictures we've seen on the forum it may as well keep the camo on. The Audi Q3 will look so much better than this - another victory for Audi before either car is even launched.

  • Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 4:33 PM

    So, it looks like an X3, costs a similar amount to an X3, has pretty much the same engine range as an X3, and sits on a modified 3 series chassis. Are you sure it's not another X3? Do BMW's customers need yet another 4x4? What's next, 1 series GT, 3 series GT, X4, X2? I do pity BM dealers. They must find it more difficult to decide what to stock than Tesco. Oh sorry, I forgot, they only stock second hand stuff in their showrooms. Good job Tesco don't.
  • Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 5:58 PM

     Hope that this will be the prettiest of the X series and be well recieved- would be nice to see a pretty BMW with a compliant ride :o)

    • CAT3
    • Joined Mar 24, 2009
    • 75 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 7:02 PM

    Autocar:

    and rising to around £35,000 for the range topping xDrive28i.


    A little confused about the write-up. First it is quoted that the range topping vehicle is an xDrive28i, then a few lines down you say "A six-speed manual gearbox is standard on all but the xDrive30i". So which one is the range topper? xDrive28i or xDrive30i?

    Also, it is quoted here that the torque output of the twin-turbo diesel is 258lb/ft at 2000rpm, but in all other BMW's available with this engine, the torque output is 295lb/ft. If this is typo, then more care is needed when passing information to your readers. If it's not a typo, then why on earth will BMW reduce the torque figure of this heavier 4x4 car compared to the 1-series?

  • Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 7:26 PM

    noluddite:
    I do pity BM dealers. They must find it more difficult to decide what to stock than Tesco

     

    Yes it must be difficult.

    They have the best driving hatch: 1 - Series

    The best driving compact saloon and estate: 3 - Series

    The best driving exec sallon and estate: 5 - Series

    The best Driving 4x4's X5 and X6

    And top runners for large exec 7 series and 6 series.

    Oh and they have ensured that their new roadaster appeals to the wider audience by including the now obligatory solid state roof. (but not to me).

     

    Please get yourself some BMW keys, be quiet, turn the ignition (oops sorry insert in the slot) and go and have some fun.

    You obviously do not enjoy driving.

    Some may say that I now might need to be called drivenonallfoursplease, but most, if not all, won't care.
  • Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 7:39 PM

    Orangewheels:

    So Jaguar dress their XJ up to look like a BMW in disguise and BMW return the compliment by stealing Jaguar's design for car camouflage?

    Lets face it, if this looks like the recent undisguised pictures we've seen on the forum it may as well keep the camo on. The Audi Q3 will look so much better than this - another victory for Audi before either car is even launched.

    Just realised why you are so pro Audi, Jag, Honda and LR.

     

    Pity.

     

    Why did it take Audi so long to develop their efficient dynamics?

    Some may say that I now might need to be called drivenonallfoursplease, but most, if not all, won't care.
    • autohead
    • Joined May 15, 2009
    • 82 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 7:45 PM

    I can see the problems that might be present for a dealer. With ever increasing niches we might see a return to the early days of the car with separate coach builders putting bodies on chassis. However I must disagree with the assessment of the range. 1 series: squashed bread van looks, mediocre quality and dreadfully packaged interior. Sure it drives well but nobody else can come along for the ride! 3 series: Excellent but why anybody would buy a new one is beyond me, more ubiquitous that Windows XP, seen some amazing bargains on one year old 320d se models. 5 series: okay, drives well but a Jaguar XF is a more convincing package now needs an update, and don't get me started on the GT with its ever expanding kidney grill. Looks like a basking whale scouting for plankton. X5/X6: Oh dear, best driving? No, a Range Rover is far superior unless you enjoy driving a brash wannabe. One for division two footballers and bookmakers. 6/7 series: Buy an S class if you want the best. Original and supremely comfortable. Less said about the six series the better. If you want a GT get a Porsche Cayman. Now that drives properly.
  • Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 8:01 PM

    Hee hee you're funny.

    Of course I have always maintained that a Range Rover drives better then an X5 / X6 (WTF?). And of course no footballers buy them do they?

     A Porsche Cayman is not a GT.

    You missed the point.

    Oh and by the way, do you buy books based on the cover? Ooh look a nice blue one with a pretty picture on the front I think I'll buy it. You seem to be attacking the marque based on looks.

     

    The words were DRIVING. not overall package etc. The dealers have a good strong line-up just like Ford have presently and Fiat. Remember the 5 series is only now being eclipsed by the XF. Sorry but how old is the 5 Series now? Hmmm an update is on the way and I know for a fact that insiders at Jag are concerned.

    Most 320d's are company cars - with good reason. Cheap to run on the car schemes.

    Some may say that I now might need to be called drivenonallfoursplease, but most, if not all, won't care.
    • manicm
    • Joined May 01, 2008
    • 458 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 8:23 PM

    If you wait and ponder about you'll realise that this, and not the X6 or 5GT, is the ugliest, dullest and most pointless thing BMW will make.

    • coopergt
    • Joined Jul 22, 2008
    • 3 Posts
    • Status: Offline

    Re: BMW X1 xDrive23d prototype

    May 27, 2009 8:25 PM

    From what i have seen this is the ugliest BMW, no wait X6, no wait X3, None of which sell very well!

Page 1 of 3 (34 items) 1 2 3 Next >
Back to top

All about Autocar

Newsfeeds

Subscribe to our news with our RSS feeds

Advertise

To advertise with Autocar contact us

Buy our magazines

Discover our titles at themagazineshop.com

Autocar latest issue - cover 8.2.12

NEW ISSUE OUT NOW

FAST, EASY & SECURE
SUBSCRIBE NOW>>