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  • Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 26, 2008 3:23 PM

    Here’s another glimpse of the new Lamborghini saloon, the company's first four-door car, which will be revealed in concept form at next week’s Paris motor show.

    The four-seater will provide Lamborghini with a rival for the forthcoming Aston Martin Rapide and Porsche’s Panamera, which will be launched next year.

    The Lamborghini, rumoured to be called the Estoque - the short sword used by a matador to kill the bull at the end of a bullfight – is also likely to go into production ne...Read the full article
  • Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 26, 2008 3:38 PM

    Hang on, am I missing something?

    Autocar:
    The four-seater will provide Lamborghini with a rival for the forthcoming Aston Martin Rapide and Porsche’s Panamera, which will be launched next year.

    Internal competition for the Panamera?  I believe the Lamborgini will be aiming at a slightly different client, probably at the top end of the market, where Porsche will be starting slightly lower.

    If they are going for the same market, what the heck are Porsche / VW thinking?  Its hard enough to sell cars as it is at the moment, there can't be that much of a market for super saloons?

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    Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 26, 2008 5:15 PM

    That image of the rear end reminds me almost of the Laguna Coupé. The lights, certainly. It'll be intriguing to see how it finally looks. Can't wait to see it in the metal!
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  • Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 26, 2008 5:46 PM

    Why the fuss about internal competition?

     If you're going to build a car, whatever class it is in, it will have a competitor.

     So why not own that competitor? It's called creative self destruction and VW group have been doing it very effectively for years.

     In the family hatchback sector, how many Golf's have been sold? Not as many as Ford have sold Focii or Vauxhall/Opel have sold Astra I'll bet.

    Now, combine the sales figures of the Golf, Bora/Jetta, Seat Leon, Seat Altea, Skoda Octavia, Audi A3 and compare that number with the Ford/Opel numbers....Now who's in a better position.

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    Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 26, 2008 6:23 PM

     

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    Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 26, 2008 6:26 PM

    Lets not forget that Porsche has only just acquired theoretical control of the VW group, and it will be a while before they can fully controlmanagement decisions. This concept has probably been in the drawig for a while, so perhaps has not yet had a reaction from the board of Porsche.

     The other, and mroesignificant point is that this is a very small market that Porsche and Aston are hoping to create. I am sure there is enough demand amongst the super rich to absorb another limited run product like this. I guess Lamborghini is unlikely to make more than a few thousand of these, if that.

  • Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 28, 2008 12:25 AM

    Autocar:
    Here’s another glimpse of the new Lamborghini saloon, the company's first four-door car, which will be revealed in concept form at next week’s Paris motor show.

    Was the LM002 not Lamborghini's first four-door car?

  • Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 28, 2008 6:11 PM

     What....??.   Please tell me your joking!!

    You need to look outside your own front door (Britain), before brandishing false facts.

    VW are Europes largest selling car maker.

    They have just overtaken Ford as the Worlds 3rd largest carmaker.

    They made over 4Billion Euros in profit last year. Both Ford and GM LOST that amount of money in 3 months.

    Now I don't particularly like what VW do as far as Platform and unit sharing across rtheir brands, but you cannot deny it seems to have been fairly successfull. Every major manufacturer now does this to save on costs, its now just a case of how well you can hide it.

     

    On to the Lambo. Surely this has got to be a 2 door GT to take on the 599//DB9 etc.

    Not sure a 4 door Lambo would do much for the Lambo brand.

     

     

  • Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 28, 2008 10:47 PM

    LateKnight:

    What....??.   Please tell me your joking!!

    You need to look outside your own front door (Britain), before brandishing false facts.

    VW are Europes largest selling car maker.

    Be that as it may, 34% of VW group is owned by Porsche. Wendling Weidking (check spelling!) Prosche CEO, sits on both boards. Porsche are the largest single shareholder in VW group. It's not ownership but it is enough to control the business' direction.

     

  • Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 29, 2008 11:32 AM

    Ah the Espada growing up near Glasgow in the 70's and seeing one locally WOW those were the days

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    Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 29, 2008 8:20 PM

    I bet the production version of this one will look pretty much as the designer intended.

     

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    Re: Lamborghini saloon; more details

    Sep 30, 2008 9:12 AM

    Estoque comes from 'Estoc', and early 16th century thrusting sword, probably the fore-runner to the rapier. In English, it was called, simply: a 'tuck'. The Lamborghini Tuck just doesn't have that glamorous ring to it, does it?
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