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  • UK car sales slide

    Jun 06, 2008 12:52 PM

    Sales of popular family cars and 4x4s tumbled last month in apparent reaction to the economic slowdown, rising fuel prices and the Government’s proposed increase in road tax, which is scheduled to be introduced next year.
    Perhaps unsurprisingly, registrations of SUVs plummeted by 18.3 per cent, but sales of popular family cars like the Ford Focus have also suffered; its total dropped 8.3 per cent compared with May 2007, despite the more economical engines introduced as part of its recent refr...Read the full article
    • Mini1
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    Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 06, 2008 12:57 PM

    I think the way to solve all the road tax business would be to take the VAT straight off sub-120 g/km cars, and half it on sub-140 g/km cars - this would stop everyone buying 4x4s and it would also mean that the smaller cars would be cheaper - an incentive to going green and downsizing. But I still think that if we are expected to downsize (most people will be now, considering the fuel prices and economy), we should get a much better incentive - like the VAT-chopping I've mentioned. Smaller cars are beginning to get more and more luxurious - just look at the flashy dashboard of the new Ibiza or space-age Ford Fiesta. The manufacturers also need to be pushed harder to reduce their CO2 emissions in their cars - if BMW can get a sub-120 g/km 3-Series and Ford can make a Focus Estate giving out just 115 g/km, then I'm fairly sure anyone can!! Then we could all save huge amounts of money!
    I've got an Aygo and a Meerkovonian meerkat :)
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    Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 06, 2008 8:40 PM

    To be expected and no surprise to me.  Cars become a luxury to most people if they are struggling to keep a roof over their heads.

    Mark
  • Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 07, 2008 12:30 AM

    ... which I'm not, so hopefully some good deals on hot hatches will arrive soon? That would be nice! :)

    • SpecB
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    Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 07, 2008 12:43 AM

    It's a buyer's market out there and I would imagine there are some serious discounts to be had off both new and used.

     Haggle hard!

    Mark
  • Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 07, 2008 12:49 AM

    Have you ever bought a new car? I went into Ford the other week and was attempting to get a discount out of them on the Focus ST was like trying to draw blood from a stone... Mind you I haven't tried the old market comparison trick, but then where do you look that is actually reputable? 

  • Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 07, 2008 7:45 AM

     i think the market is remarkably resilient considering how much the media overplays 'credit crunch' etc.....consumers appear to be making more sensible buying decisions.....maybe people who dont actually need SUVs and 4x4s are choosing something that takes up less space, is lighter and more socially acceptable...and also cheaper to run...

     as said before its a buyers market- this can only be a good thing- with james ruppert catastrophising on his blog he would do well to remember the dark days of 1991 when the market dropped from over 2M units to 1.5M.......3.5% down on 2007, one of the best years ever is not going to see dealership boarded up....

     
    what is the deal with the media and autocar talking of recession?......we are not in one nor forecast to be!!!......dont talk us into one- thats all it takes!!!.....a few autocar readers etc holding off a purchase that they can afford is the last thing the market needs!!!

     why not run an article about the best deals available?....budget beating tax evading discounted fun to drive motors!!!!...autocar come on!!!!!!!


     

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    Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 07, 2008 12:33 PM

    I think the VED argument is a red herring - the proposed annual increases pale into insignificance compared with the weekly fill-up costs.

    Spain's new car sales were off 24% last month. There have been minor increases in annual tax - mine went from €106 to €113 for a 2.0TDI. However since taxes on diesel are lower here, the oil price increases are having a bigger impact on pump prices.   

  • Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 09, 2008 1:10 PM

    sierra:

    I think the VED argument is a red herring - the proposed annual increases pale into insignificance compared with the weekly fill-up costs.

     

    We've always had significantly higher fuel costs here in the UK and are used to them being a significant proportion of our motoring budget. However, VED has only recently been banded so that at one end of the scale you have £0, and at the other £400. For many people, £400 is what they might spend on servicing in a five year period, or perhaps two new sets of tyres. They now have to find that sum in addition and annually!

    No, VED is not the lone culprit here, but it's also not the red herring you claim it is.

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    Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 09, 2008 4:55 PM

    lukemedway:
    Have you ever bought a new car? I went into Ford the other week and was attempting to get a discount out of them on the Focus ST was like trying to draw blood from a stone... Mind you I haven't tried the old market comparison trick, but then where do you look that is actually reputable? 

    Sorry I haven't answered this soon.  It does depend on the model and manufacturer.  Normally Ford are good at discounting but it does depend on the dealer - some will and some won't.

    I always find the cheapest UK sourced internet price from a broker such as Broadspeed and show that to the dealer.  If they can't get anywhere near then I walk away.  If they can get to within £250 then I would take it because that would be the cost of the train to to a far away dealer and driving back.

    I managed to get £2k off my Legacy this way which was better then What Car's best price at the time, and the model I bought had only just been released in its current form.

    I wouldn't imagine that they would discount the ST much in any case.

    Mark
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    Re: UK car sales slide

    Jun 17, 2008 3:50 PM

    I always find the cheapest UK sourced internet price from a broker such as Broadspeed and show that to the dealer.  If they can't get anywhere near then I walk away. 

    Even easier than negotiating yourself get some experts to help.  I go to broombroom.com and they always find me an excellent deal and are really knowledgeable about the best car options in the current climate re depreciation, best finance package etc.  It saves me so much time and stress - and no waiting around in showrooms to talk to dealers biased towards one brand.

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