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  • Porsche 911 GT2

    Mar 17, 2008 8:30 PM

    What is it?


    It’s the latest and certainly the greatest version of Porsche’s wildest road car (not counting the ultra-rare, ultra expensive Carrera GT, of course).


    We’ve already driven the new 997 GT2 abroad, and even then we were knocked sideways – literally – by its astonishing blend of power, torque, performance and composure. But this is the first time we’ve been able to let rip in it in the UK. And you know what they say about UK roads being so different from those in ma...Read the full article

  • Re: Porsche 911 GT2

    Mar 17, 2008 8:39 PM

    This is a 911 Turbo with the common sense removed. The black sheep of the 911 family and a rough, noisey ride if that's your kinda thing! Personally I'd wait for the M3 CSL and save myself £60 grand for when oil costs $600 a barrel.

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    Re: Porsche 911 GT2

    Mar 18, 2008 4:42 PM

    JJBoxster:

    This is a 911 Turbo with the common sense removed. The black sheep of the 911 family and a rough, noisey ride if that's your kinda thing! Personally I'd wait for the M3 CSL and save myself £60 grand for when oil costs $600 a barrel.

     Its all personal choice. no one's holding a gun to your head to buy this car. To me this is the ultimate missile. Its you, the car and your talent. One wrong move and it'll bite your head off.

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    Re: Porsche 911 GT2

    Mar 18, 2008 4:42 PM

    JJBoxster:

    This is a 911 Turbo with the common sense removed. The black sheep of the 911 family and a rough, noisey ride if that's your kinda thing! Personally I'd wait for the M3 CSL and save myself £60 grand for when oil costs $600 a barrel.

     Its all personal choice. no one's holding a gun to your head to buy this car. To me this is the ultimate missile. Its you, the car and your talent. One wrong move and it'll bite your head off. I gues thats why its known as the widowmaker.

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    Re: Porsche 911 GT2

    Mar 18, 2008 4:43 PM

    JJBoxster:

    This is a 911 Turbo with the common sense removed. The black sheep of the 911 family and a rough, noisey ride if that's your kinda thing! Personally I'd wait for the M3 CSL and save myself £60 grand for when oil costs $600 a barrel.

     Its all personal choice. no one's holding a gun to your head to buy this car. To me this is the ultimate missile. Its you, the car and your talent. One wrong move and it'll bite your head off. I gues thats why its known as the widowmaker.

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    Re: Porsche 911 GT2

    Mar 19, 2008 2:13 PM

    65 AMG:
    I gues thats why its known as the widowmaker.
    By the sound of Sutcliffe's article, that should be used to be called the widowmaker...
  • Re: Porsche 911 GT2

    Mar 19, 2008 2:33 PM

    justerino:
    By the sound of Sutcliffe's article, that should be used to be called the widowmaker...

    One of the rules of motoring journalism is that each new generation of 911 is described as tame compared to the last, when said journalist then feels safe to admit that the previous model was still tail happy.

    But then, the whole 911 thing is frankly bizarre - 50 years or more of huge industrial engineering talent thrown at solving a problem that could be removed completely by the simple expedient of not hanging the engine out over the rear wheels.

  • Re: Porsche 911 GT2

    Aug 09, 2009 1:40 PM

    RobotBoogie:
    But then, the whole 911 thing is frankly bizarre - 50 years or more of huge industrial engineering talent thrown at solving a problem that could be removed completely by the simple expedient of not hanging the engine out over the rear wheels.

    You don't understand the immense value of the 911 and its format; a "problem" that has been blithely solved in recent times, infinitely, by every other manufacturer apart from Renault - who delightfully created the problem again in the flawed but almost unique (and slightly crap) Alpine GTA.

    It is sad that there are people so visionless that they can't see firstly what the configuration offers technically, and secondly how the way in which Porsche has honed this driving machine to exploit all its potential is something approaching sublime. Look how they have made the whole visceral experienced a balanced and beautifully engineered one: the braking power and stability combined with incredible feel, the usability of what was once a terrifying chassis, and the continual advancement of the ergonomics to make it a car that can be used regularly without too much pain.

    And then, think about what is lost in the termination of a model devotedly developed over maybe 70 years with the engine rearwards of the rear axle: the most effective way of producing accelerative grip; the delicious quirk of a chassis that bites tenaciously out of corners in a way no other car can. The packaging also allows the car to be kept relatively small and therefore light, so that the performance figures, especially off the line, are astonishing.

    You are yearning for a world full of anodyne and yielding solutions to selective questions. You don't appear to appreciate the profound statement of engineering, flair and genius that is made in the relentless 911 project.

    If you have not seen it before, you might appreciate this, though:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYiJ0ATSM1s

    I have always thought Clarkson was good (although sometimes an idiotic thug), but this was very good. Almost genius.

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