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  • Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 12:02 PM

    Car manufacturers are making progress in ensuring all car radios are digital as standard by 2015.

    As part of the government’s Digital Britain report last year, it was confirmed that the analogue radio signal would be switched off by 2015. The take up of digital radio in cars has so far been slow, but Digital Britain is speeding up the development of the in-car technology.

    Anthony Sethill, chief executive of the UK’s leading DAB component supplier Frontier Silicon, said, “Digitial ...Read the full article
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    Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 12:06 PM

    I didn't realise this was going to happen so soon.  What about the myriads of existing cars that can't receive a digital signal?  Most have built in sound systems so that pulling out the old radio and replacing it with a new model from Halfords is not an option.  Those adaptors that require new aerials and power leads draped all over the dashboard are not the answer either.

  • Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 12:13 PM

     I'm sure they wont turn off analogue radio in 2015.

     

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  • Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 12:46 PM

    I would think that 2020 is more likely.

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    Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 12:49 PM

    I too find this worrying. Its stupid that many cars today cant be bought with a digital radio, and by the time they are 5 they might not be able to receive radio anymore.

     

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    Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 1:01 PM

    Calm down everybody! There are a myriad of converters you can use to tansform your FM radio into a digital one:

    http://www.pure.com/products/product.asp?Product=VL-60905&Category=In-Car

    I think the bigger issue is not the equipment fitted to vehicles, but the reliability of a DAB signal in a moving vehicle. Apparently it is not as good as FM.

     

     

     

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    Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 1:24 PM

    evanstim:
    There are a myriad of converters you can use to tansform your FM radio into a digital one:

    Yes, but firstly do you want yet another gadget stuck to your windscreen with its own extra aeriel. Power wires etc. And they either need an aux input on the stereo or you need to use an FM transmitter. Having tried the latter with MP3 players i know they are rubbish. You might as well just have a portable radio sitting on the passenger seat!

    Ideally manufactures would offer an exchange service where the standard car radio can be swapped for a newer version with DAB built in, but of course this will never happen.

     

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    Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 1:36 PM

    evanstim:

    Calm down everybody! There are a myriad of converters you can use to tansform your FM radio into a digital one:

    http://www.pure.com/products/product.asp?Product=VL-60905&Category=In-Car

    I think the bigger issue is not the equipment fitted to vehicles, but the reliability of a DAB signal in a moving vehicle. Apparently it is not as good as FM.

    I think I could live with a converter (but I will go out and buy shares in Pure - they will make a fortune from this), but I share you concerns about reception. Digtal TV is terrible with anything other than a perfect signal, whereas analogue TV is perfectly watchable, albeit a little fuzzy. We keep getting told they will boost the signal, but how succesful this will be I don't know.

    I am surprised by the date of 2015 though - seems far too soon. 2020 would give time for the technology to filter into most cars.

    Does anyone know much about Sirrus satelite radio? It seems to be popular in the US (from what I've heard anyway), will it come over here?

  • Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 1:44 PM

    artill:

    I too find this worrying. Its stupid that many cars today cant be bought with a digital radio, and by the time they are 5 they might not be able to receive radio anymore.

     

    It's the reporting in this magazine that you really need to be worried about. Analogue radio being switched off by 2015 - ha! ha! ha!  Yet another example of Autocar's splendid investigative journalism.

    The 2015 figure was quoted in the governments Digital Britain report. What Autocar left out was the report also said:

    "The switchover will be announced two years in advance and not until digital accounts for 50% of all radio listening"

    It also mentioned minor details such as AM going off air but the FM band continuing to be used - but we'll forget about all that. We should do as Autocar does, concentrate on the headline and ignore the story.

  • Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 1:48 PM

    There is a company called Ampsys which claims to have solved multi-path reception in FM, that's where you get a tish-tish noise as you're driving:

    http://www.ampsysltd.co.uk/

    DAB suffers from this but as yet there is no solution.   The Pure radio receiver that was talked about earlier suffers from this.   A review I read (Sunday Times) said, after trying a number of solutions, that DAB wasn't very good at all for driving around the city.

    A demo of the Ampsys system can be found here:

    http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tjmoir/ampsys.html

    I've had a personal demostration of the system and can confirm that yes it does work.

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    Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 2:05 PM

    evanstim:
    I think the bigger issue is not the equipment fitted to vehicles, but the reliability of a DAB signal in a moving vehicle. Apparently it is not as good as FM.

    Quality of the sound is better, but yes, mine frequently goes quite for a few seconds.

    The big issue for me though is lack of any scale to reference. I find it hugely frustrating that I just have to keep scanning until it finds the station I want, and sometimes in between will find another station 5-6 times!

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    Re: Car radio to go digital

    Feb 09, 2010 7:40 PM

    Whats going to be hard is how do you equip the cars that are selling now with analog radios with a digital radio?

    Although in the past most cars just had a standard single/double DIN radio that could be easily swapped out for an aftermarket unit, the latest models ship with model-specific custom fit radios (e.g. look in the latest Fiesta or 5-series) that cannot be replaced with an aftermarket unit. Are owners just expected to stop using the radio in car after this date?

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