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  • McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 1:47 PM

    McLaren is using F1-style development techniques on the MP4-12C during an extensive testing regime spanning from Germany’s Nurburgring to the Arctic Circle.

    Details have emerged of the development programme, which is at its halfway point, and is being orchestrated by the McLaren Technology Centre in Woking.

    The 2009 testing programme has seen the car spend much of its time on the Nurburgring and Dunsfold Aerodrome. It has also been cold weather testing in the Arctic and tested for ...Read the full article
  • Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 1:53 PM

    Someone please explain to my how McLaren are the most successful ever racing team? I know there's more to the motor racing world than just F1 but really..... Does this guy live inside Tech Centre in Woking without news from the outside world? Is this how Ron creates super engineers by adopting children and raising them to build his cars? It wouldn't surprise me. But McLaren being more successful than Ferrari in a definitive way, that would surprise me. I'm not saying it's not true, just wondering if someone knows the facts off the top of their head. Or has time to research it for me. I doubt this car will be better than the 458. And it's not 'super' looking. There, i said it.
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    Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 2:01 PM

    I wondered the same thing. Maybe he's talking numbers of f1 wins to races. In which case they may be the most sucessfull, as at times Ferrari have competed and won nothing for fairly long periods of time. Wheras I think Mclaren have a lot more wins to races..

     Although wouldn't that make Brawn the most sucessfull team ever.

  • Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 2:10 PM

    i was also wondering the same thing.

    Even if you just look at Formula One, they fall well short of Ferrari's title tally.  Plus, although i don't know how many times Ferrari has won at Le Mans, i do know it was many times more than once...

    And i really hate the over-use of the word 'iconic'.  Although i agree that the F1 was an awesome machine.

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    Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 2:11 PM

     

    "we are this" ......   ," we did this".......," we were the first".....

     

     YAWN !

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    Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 2:40 PM

    "We are the most successful ever motor racing team"

    In your dreams, maybe...

     

  • Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 2:45 PM

    RednBlue:

    "We are the most successful ever motor racing team"

     

    McLaren is a victim of its own success and is caught between a rock and a hard place in this regard.

    In the last ten years, McLaren has become a race-winning team but not exactly a champion-winning team. I hope they will win everything in 2010..........and beyond!

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    Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 3:01 PM

    pabs:
    "we are this" ......   ," we did this".......," we were the first".....

    This is self promotion- something you would expect any commercial entity to do..... what did you expect them to say " We are just a mediocre car firm"

    What a pointless comment

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    Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 3:49 PM

    disco.stu:
    i don't know how many times Ferrari has won at Le Mans

     

    9 times. Macca errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 1.

  • Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 4:17 PM

    Autocar:
    Having to develop a brand new range of cars from scratch to the standards expected of McLaren, featuring groundbreaking new structures and powertrain, is the ultimate challenge and one we are relishing.

    Now that is, to say the least, an extremely 'interesting' statement. How many patents did they file during or, for that matter, after the development of this car?

    • TStag
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    Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 4:34 PM

    To be fair to Mclaren they have won 15 F1 WC titles against Ferarri's 18. So it's fair to say that they are better than Lamborgini (who have won what exactly?), Aston and all those other minnows like Pagani.

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    Re: McLaren MP4 test details revealed

    Nov 13, 2009 7:07 PM

    To be fair Ferrari won 31 F1 titles (15 drivers, 16 constructors) against McLaren's 20 (12 drivers, 8 constructors). Ferrari also won the World Sportscar Championship 13 times. Ferrari cars won the Mille Miglia 8 times, the Targa Florio 7 times and the 24 Hours of Le Mans 9 times. Ferrari also won several times in Daytona, Sebring, etc. It's simply ridiculous what the McLaren employee said. Pathetic.
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