23 May 2012
My blood is boiling!
On the way home from Lidl's, a shop that sells my favorite snack wasabi peas, I was sat in traffic and noticed two adults in the car next to me puffing away with 3 kids in the back. Windows up and apparently completely unaware of their own selfishness.
Perhaps it's just me but surely this is abuse, isn't it?


20 May 2012
Absolutely. I am a smoker, and I am responsible for my own health. However, when my kids are in the car - or even the Mrs wheels, I never smoke. If I want to have a puff, then I pull over and have one, actually works well because taking a break from driving is important. But smoking windows up or down with anyone else in the car is a disgrace. Mrs wheels is a none smoker, I dont smoke in the house either, I go in the garden! She is always upset getting in my car because sometimes I do smoke when in heavy traffic and alone, and it makes the car smell bad despite using antitabac air purifiers. Its a disgusting habit, but it is my freedom of choice - but mine only!
what's life without imagination
17 July 2009
Absolutely. I am a smoker, and I am responsible for my own health. However, when my kids are in the car - or even the Mrs wheels, I never smoke. If I want to have a puff, then I pull over and have one, actually works well because taking a break from driving is important. But smoking windows up or down with anyone else in the car is a disgrace. Mrs wheels is a none smoker, I dont smoke in the house either, I go in the garden! She is always upset getting in my car because sometimes I do smoke when in heavy traffic and alone, and it makes the car smell bad despite using antitabac air purifiers. Its a disgusting habit, but it is my freedom of choice - but mine only!
One word - Quit!
15 May 2012
That's three words.
Alex.herzog@ymail.com if anyone prefers to debate anything offline.
4 March 2008
I guess there's 2 issues here: 1/ smoking with family in the car is 100% wrong. 2/ is smoking at the wheel (alone) dangerous.
I hate people who smoke in a car with their family trapped with their smoke.
An experienced smoker isn't going to be distracted by having a fag between fingers in the same way as someone making a phonecall but it's something I'd rather not see. I don't think tab ends stay inside the car ashtray anymore, they go out the window. Dirty.
Honda CR-V ES 2.2 i-DTEC/Citroen DS3 1.6 VTi DStyle Plus
6 September 2011
Evo_ermine,
Nice to see you are a tolerant individual (NOT)!
My advice to you would be START, you may chill a little!
From the above you can probably tell I am a smoker, but never in the car (or house) even though I do not have children. Only possible exception is when on a long journey (100+ miles) travelling on my own and stationary in a jam on the M3, M25, M4, M5, M42, M6, etc.
As an aside I saw Guns n Roses at the Echo Arena in Liverpool on Sunday, and the title of one of their songs seems especially apt - Lie and Let Die!
After all it is probably car owning, smoking, drinkers like myself that keep our economy afloat.
18 May 2012
It's a fair point you make Toptidy, the revenue you contribute through taxation of your various vices is significant and probably outstrips the cost of you in the final analysis. Very fair point mate.
Personally, I don't give a toss what people do so long as it doesn't affect anyone but themselves in the end. Most people, but not all by any means, can moderate themselves, they don't need telling twice.
Cry me a river, build a bridge and then get over it; swallow a concrete pill and harden the frak up.
26 October 2007
People who chuck cigarette butts out of their car windows should lose their driving licence for 10 years.
Parents who smoke should be banned from doing it in their house and car, near their children, outside school gates, in the playground at parks etc. Contravention of these rules would be the equivalent of child abuse.
God I'm feeling grumpy this morning.
R.I.P. http://www.autocar.co.uk/forum
24 May 2012
it is so great to learn from it
6 November 2007
It's a fair point you make Toptidy, the revenue you contribute through taxation of your various vices is significant and probably outstrips the cost of you in the final analysis. Very fair point mate.
It is only a fair point if you count the "cost" of smoking in pounds and pence.
I don't give a toss what people do so long as it doesn't affect anyone but themselves in the end.
Of course, you don't have to spend your life in smoke filled rooms (or cars), as a non-smoker, to be affected by it...in the end.
If I knew what I was getting into, I wouldn't have done it...and I would have been wrong.
18 May 2012
It's a fair point you make Toptidy, the revenue you contribute through taxation of your various vices is significant and probably outstrips the cost of you in the final analysis. Very fair point mate.
It is only a fair point if you count the "cost" of smoking in pounds and pence.
I don't give a toss what people do so long as it doesn't affect anyone but themselves in the end.
Of course, you don't have to spend your life in smoke filled rooms (or cars), as a non-smoker, to be affected by it...in the end.
Fair point Colonel, poor old Roy Castle for example.
Cry me a river, build a bridge and then get over it; swallow a concrete pill and harden the frak up.