VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

At launch, presumably to help differentiate the Golf cabriolet from the Eos, the Golf comes with a range of generally less powerful engines than its longer sibling. There are 1.2-litre, 104bhp and 1.4-litre, 158bhp petrol engines and, for now, just one diesel – the 103bhp, 1.6-litre turbocharged unit as tested here. More powerful engines – 2.0-litre diesels and a 2.0-litre TSI petrol – will follow later. Our test car came with the five-speed manual gearbox, its only option.

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Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 21 weeks ago

Weedge wrote:
Just took delivery of a 1.6tdi Blue-motion SE

Congratulations on getting your new car! I hope you enjoy it! I once drove an Audi A3 with the same engine, and it's not bad really, even if it's not that quick. The only gripe I had was with the five-speed 'box - it could have done with either another gear or taller ratios.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 21 weeks ago

I bought one !

Just took delivery of a 1.6tdi Blue-motion SE. Only done a few miles so far but impressions are good. Rides well, very quiet and seems quality. Its true the performance is no great shakes, but its OK for what it is, and pretty much on par with my previous car (Yeti 2ltr Tdi 110).

I have no idea of the fuel consumption yet, and I was aware of grumbles about the mpg of this engine. Some people are getting great economy and some are not, I hope I am one of the lucky ones.

As for value I am very happy, VW almost gave the car away so assume things are bad at my local garage. I got just under four and a half grand off list price, and my trade in price was so generous I could not say no. I suppose you have to make compromises with this type of car, but I am a happy chappy so far.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 45 weeks ago

Hughesynights wrote:

Yes your right it should do more... Alot more but it doesn't, The conclusion's we have is this....

1 Ours is an early example which means it has every fault possible

2 VW doesn't give a Dam

3 VW Dealers dont know how to fix the unfixable

4 VW told the biggest lies about Fuel Consumption for this engine.

5 later cars have been sorted??

However still plenty B"tching on VW forums about that engine, as said mainly from the Seat/Skoda brands so perhaps 1in 3 are sorted? but still not seen any owners getting close to the "Official figures"?

If we could turn back time we would have ordered the 2.0TDi.

Incidentally makes you wonder why VW are spending so much money on a cabrio when the mk7 will be launched next year? Or is it true it will be a Seat Leon with new headlights?

I wouldn't put it past VW...

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 45 weeks ago

greedymotion wrote:

How thirsty?

In the Living tab autocar states Still, running costs are more than competitive. At 64.2mpg on the combined cycle

Test average 46.8 mpg

Test best/worst 56.5 / 23.3

Ours does Best 41 Worst 30 ish.

You have a diesel right? If so, there must be something wrong with it, or you do short journeys with a heavy right foot.

I have a 2.0 tdi Bluemotion Technology. Over 12,000 miles my average is 64.1 mpg (measure by fuel used, not trip computer).

On long, slow motorway journeys I have achieved over 90 mpg on the display for the journey.

Surely the 1.6 tdi should do even better?

I love my Golf mk 6. Outstanding fuel consumption is one of the main reasons. It really has exceeded my expectations.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 45 weeks ago

Good God- £23k+ for that? You can have an approved used 3 year old CLK from Mercedes for that money with less than 8000 miles on the clock.

Hell of a lot more 'classy' than the Golf.

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Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 45 weeks ago

The article questions the impact this car will have on the Eos, but I am also wondering about the impact it will have on the A3 Cabriolet? After all, the A3 and Golf are probably conceptually closer than the Eos and the Golf. The A3 cab has done very well out of all those who don't want a folding metal roof, so will be interesting to see how the Golf affects things. Of course, there will probably be an all-new A3 cabriolet in a couple of years, so VAG are probably prepared to wear it until then. As for the lack of performance from the 1.6 TDI, I would have thought that plenty of Golf Cabriolet customers will be perfectly happy. It keeps up with the traffic easily enough - and if they have previously owned a VAG 1.9 TDI engine, they will be amazed at how much quieter the 1.6 TDI is.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

ordinary bloke wrote:
This car seems very expensive for what it is, and presumably the better faster versions will be up near £30,000 mark. Is it just me, or are "normal" cars getting too expensive for "normal" motorists to afford ?

You might have noticed everything but pay has gone up in the UK, except pay for the 10% highest earners.

So really prices have n't gone up, it is the pound that has been devalued and just about everyone except the bankers has taken a paycut.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

This car seems very expensive for what it is, and presumably the better faster versions will be up near £30,000 mark. Is it just me, or are "normal" cars getting too expensive for "normal" motorists to afford ?


Enjoying a Fabia VRs - affordable performance

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

jimcumming wrote:

Looks like the 1.4Tsi is available, but not in this trim level. Looking at the configurator on the VW website engines are available as follows.

  • S - 1.2 Tsi 6sp and 1.6 Tdi 5sp
  • SE - 1.6 Tdi 5sp
  • GT - 1.4 Tsi 6sp and 1.4Tsi 7sp DSG

That's the more powerful, 158/160bhp version. Maybe the 122 will come in time.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Looks like the 1.4Tsi is available, but not in this trim level. Looking at the configurator on the VW website engines are available as follows.

  • S - 1.2 Tsi 6sp and 1.6 Tdi 5sp
  • SE - 1.6 Tdi 5sp
  • GT - 1.4 Tsi 6sp and 1.4Tsi 7sp DSG

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

I think that despite the lethargic performance (I ran a lighter 5doors one for almost 2 years and the performances were borderline) this car is still likeable even with around 100hp but it must have a petrol engine...I will never buy a diesel open car!

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

catnip wrote:
The article seems to suggest that it won't be fitted with the 1.4 tsi 122, which is a big shame as i think that would have been a good choice.

That does seem to be the ideal engine for this car, perhaps VW can't keep up with demand on their existing models.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

230SL wrote:

Nice car, but tacky, tries too hard, needs some 195/65r15 on steelies, no A/C and golf trouser check seat covers with vinyl bolsters.

Agree completely ... when will manufacturers realise that not everyone wants 18" wheels, leather seats and pointless gee-gaws? I really like the Golf cabrio, but I'd like a simpler (and cheaper) version.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Tatraman wrote:

Like others I'm pleased to see manufacturers moving away from the metal folding roof trend with it's inevitable poor packaging, but I fail to understand how anyone can thing this stumpy looking beast is better looking than the Eos which is surely the most resolved of the current tin top brigade.

For me, part of the appeal of the Golf cabriolet was always its stubby, solid appearance. I'd have one of these over an Eos anyday. The article seems to suggest that it won't be fitted with the 1.4 tsi 122, which is a big shame as i think that would have been a good choice.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Like others I'm pleased to see manufacturers moving away from the metal folding roof trend with it's inevitable poor packaging, but I fail to understand how anyone can thing this stumpy looking beast is better looking than the Eos which is surely the most resolved of the current tin top brigade.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Nice little car though. I'll have a second hand one in a few years time with a petrol engine...

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Maxycat wrote:
The answer to why modern cars have such low profile and wide tyres is fashion. An increased tyre width does nothing for grip unless the tyre carries a load unsuitable for a narrower tyre. I used to have great grip in my Peugeot 205 1.8 diesel circa 1985 on 145/70 x 13 tyres. And when it snowed I still had grip as they bit into the snow rather than sat on top of it

Completely agree with all these sentiments and would add that it is of course in the interest of tyre and car makers to promote bigger tyres and wheels because the selling prices and profit margins are higher.

245s on a 1495kg, 103 hp car - insane... Our old 138 hp 7 seat VW Touran was on 205s and our monstrous XC90 is on 235s. Like Maxycat I had a Peugeot 205 on 145s, many years ago, and they worked brilliantly.

My Mum had a Citroen Dyane in the 1980s that wore 125s; skinny tyres ruled.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Nice car, but tacky, tries too hard, needs some 195/65r15 on steelies, no A/C and golf trouser check seat covers with vinyl bolsters.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Nice car, but tacky tries too hard, needs some 195/65r15 on steelies, no A/C and golf trouser check seat covers with vinyl bolsters.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Maxycat wrote:
I always wonder when people express rage at a particular make or model of car they own whether they have tried another example of the same car to prove or disprove if it is a fault with their car or just they are all like that and it is just the driver who cannot get on with the car but most other drivers find no problem. Also did you not test drive a similar model before buying?

Yes "The Rage we have" is the same as some but not all 1.6TDi, Most common is Fuel Consumption Although Strangely few Passat's with this engine complaining? This could be traced to the fact many are company cars with fuel paid for.

Some Skoda Octavia owners are getting near to the official figures, Others not. Whilst the difficult to drive smoothly is usually pointed at Bluemotion/Greenline/Ecomotion

We test drove the normal 1.6tdi which was dreadfully slow but didnt show any of the tendencies our car has developed, We didn't drive it long enough to check mpg.

We purchased this engine due to a trip to a local VW Dealer for some parts when He had 5 crates of the 2.0 TDi engines, some looked new others filthy, I asked were they all broken? Yes was the reply, What was wrong with them? I asked, The Parts man shook his head and said you dont want to know, Which put us off that engine so we opted for the new 1.6, However we didn't realise it is basically the same design engine.

Fuel consumption aside (it struggled to get more than 30 mpg before 5k) Ours was fine upto that point but then developed these characteristics, but alas after 3 DISS reports no faults were recorded.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

BriMarsh wrote:
Not to mention the chocking clouds of soot rear seat passengers will endure when the driver boots it, à la every other VW diesel I see

I shouldn't think so as it has a DPF.

I saw one of these parked up a couple of weeks ago and thought it looked great, so much better than the folding hard top alternatives. Not with this engine, though. Preferably a petrol but at least the 2.0tdi.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

theonlydt wrote:
I just wrote a thread on tyres, so this jumped out at me: "running 245/45 tyres" - on a 1.6 diesel!! Why? Stupidity.
The answer to why modern cars have such low profile and wide tyres is fashion. An increased tyre width does nothing for grip unless the tyre carries a load unsuitable for a narrower tyre. I used to have great grip in my Peugeot 205 1.8 diesel circa 1985 on 145/70 x 13 tyres. And when it snowed I still had grip as they bit into the snow rather than sat on top of it.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

rodenal wrote:
This will be horrific to drive, roof down, rattling and clattering
Not to mention the chocking clouds of soot rear seat passengers will endure when the driver boots it, à la every other VW diesel I see.

  • Let depreciation be your friend...

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

greedymotion wrote:
Then again we have lost any love for our car, we live in hope that it will written off in an accident, We also keep leaving it in vulnerable places, However like most things in life that you hate, it never gets touched
I think we get the message that you are a dissatisfied VW customer. I always wonder when people express rage at a particular make or model of car they own whether they have tried another example of the same car to prove or disprove if it is a fault with their car or just they are all like that and it is just the driver who cannot get on with the car but most other drivers find no problem. Also did you not test drive a similar model before buying?

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

jimcumming wrote:

I guess they've remapped the ECU considerably then. I've been driving a 1.6 tdi Golf for the last six months and don't get any of those issues. I don't have a Bluemotion tech version, but I still see 60mpg on the way to work and 70mpg on the way back (due to hills). If I don't get stuck in traffic and get the opportunity to press on a little, I can sometimes see low 50's but never any worse than that. Power delivery is pretty linear for a diesel too.

Must admit though that overtaking is not something you consider lightly with this car.

This probably explains why "on Forums" Skoda/Seat and even Audi A1 owners have overtaken Bluemotion owners for complaints with this engine...

Mine has had 1 update which sorted out (sometimes) the erratic idle speed and made the Fuel computer register nearly 10 mpg more... but did nothing for the drive-ability nor the fuel consumption, would like to compare engine nos... The Truth is out there!

Then again we have lost any love for our car, we live in hope that it will written off in an accident, We also keep leaving it in vulnerable places, However like most things in life that you hate, it never gets touched

As for fun trying to overtake anything is an adrenalin ride not to be missed.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

Its easy this car design lark, take 1 Audi A3 cabriolet, lower base price slightly, remove Audi badges, replace them with VW badges and call it an all new model, job done and still home in time for bier and bratwurst.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

greedymotion wrote:
Ours does Best 41 Worst 30 ish.

I guess they've remapped the ECU considerably then. I've been driving a 1.6 tdi Golf for the last six months and don't get any of those issues. I don't have a Bluemotion tech version, but I still see 60mpg on the way to work and 70mpg on the way back (due to hills). If I don't get stuck in traffic and get the opportunity to press on a little, I can sometimes see low 50's but never any worse than that. Power delivery is pretty linear for a diesel too.

Must admit though that overtaking is not something you consider lightly with this car.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

My fleet manager tried to suggest I order a Leon with the 1.6 TDI which I politely declined and chose a new Focus 1.6 TDCi (yet to arrive) instead. I've heard nothing but disappointed reviews on the VAG unit. I do wonder how bad it really is though. To claim 'forget overtaking' seems a bit of an exaggeration. Third gear, foot to the floor, bit of planning, it will be fine. As for the car itself, I always liked the Eos, but this Golf looks so much better.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

I just wrote a thread on tyres, so this jumped out at me: "running 245/45 tyres" - on a 1.6 diesel!! Why? Stupidity.

Additionally I've heard some pretty nasty grumblings about the 1.6 diesel, I do wonder if they've reprogrammed the ECUs somewhat.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

I do like the look of the new Golf Cab, engine seems a tad weedy for the weight. 1.4 TSi 122 may improve on price and performance 2 litre derv better still but probably £1500 more. Still an expensive car but I am sure it will do very well with the desirability of the Golf.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

I cant belive how much VW are pushing the dreaded 1.6 TDi, Every VW group forum has some serious B"tching about That engine, (Seat and Skoda owners have overtaken Bluemotion ones) Quiet it may be (though some passengers have said "Bit noisy for a new car" but didn't realise it was a Diesel...) I like many have little else to recommend it !

However looking at what Autocar has quoted for the power

Max power 103 bhp at 4400 rpm

Max torque 184 ft at 1500 rpm

Has VW meddled with this engine and put wrong to right ? The Torque is the Big give away, down to a mere 1500 rpm, whilst ours is into the heavens at 2500 which means an absolute sod on every road bar motorway, I also note Autocar has no mention of the flat spots, hesitations that plagues our early example (Dealers have a written data sheet for why this is apparent, which mentions obtaining absolute Torque.?)which feels like the ECU has one command overruling and contradicting the other.

However one VW forum states the flat spots are at the precise point in which the EU takes its emissions.? Which you will note Autocar are quoting 117g/km (same as the non Bluemotion Golf) Ours is 105g/km so perhaps they may have sorted the fuel consumption from the outlandish claims to a more realistic figure that owners may achieve without driving like there is a fuel crisis.

How thirsty?

In the Living tab autocar states Still, running costs are more than competitive. At 64.2mpg on the combined cycle

Test average 46.8 mpg

Test best/worst 56.5 / 23.3

Ours does Best 41 Worst 30 ish.

Re: VW Golf 1.6 TDI Cabriolet

2 years 46 weeks ago

This will be horrific to drive, roof down, rattling and clattering (I know the newer vag units are better but they're still very much a diesel) and not even any sort of hint of performance to make up for it. Looks decent though.

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