I'm happy to concede that Hamilton is at times his own worst enemy, and yes he should have conceded the place and settled for a safe fourth position. But you can't claim he's not a seasoned winner. He's won quite few GP's, a World Championship and he's getting far more out of the car than Jenson is at the moment. That said, if I was the Principal of an F1 team I'd want Alonso and Vettel as my drivers, not Hamilton.
Fair points but I think he had one good season that came down to the last lap of the season's last race. By no means a convincing season's racing and one that he's certainly not been able to repeat - nowhere near. For me, he's far from a 'seasoned winner'. No one at this level is without skill but he's not top flight within that because his attitude is all wrong.
while it was definately Maldonado's fault, it still showed that little bit of maturity and "nouse" lacking in Hamilton. His tyres were shot, so he should have just nursed the car home for points ( ala Alonso in Canada).
Speaking of which, for me Alonso has been head and shoulders above the rest this season. He is over-achieving in the Ferrari. For me the jury is out on Vettel, great when starting from pole otherwise merely average.
while it was definately Maldonado's fault, it still showed that little bit of maturity and "nouse" lacking in Hamilton. His tyres were shot, so he should have just nursed the car home for points ( ala Alonso in Canada).
Exactly. Both were silly boys, and showed the lack of real patience that Alonso manages to balance with superb aggression when required. Hamilton could have walked away with some points instead of none, and Maldonado could have walked away with another podium. Both ended up big losers through their poor judgment, although I would have though Maldonado deserved a more significant penalty a la KK in the Sauber.
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Speaking of which, for me Alonso has been head and shoulders above the rest this season. He is over-achieving in the Ferrari. For me the jury is out on Vettel, great when starting from pole otherwise merely average.
I think Vettel is very, very good. But he is still young compared to Alonso (debuted 2001), Webber (debuted 2002), Massa (debuted 2002), Schumacher (debuted 1950?), Raikkonen (debuted 2001), Button (debuted 2000) and so on. He still has plenty of time to improve, and for me is far superior as an all-round package to Hamilton (both debuted 2007) or Rosberg (debuted 2006). In another five years, Vettel will be even greater while Hamilton could still be making the same mistakes he has repeatedly failed to learn from in recent years.
15 June 2012
I'm happy to concede that Hamilton is at times his own worst enemy, and yes he should have conceded the place and settled for a safe fourth position. But you can't claim he's not a seasoned winner. He's won quite few GP's, a World Championship and he's getting far more out of the car than Jenson is at the moment. That said, if I was the Principal of an F1 team I'd want Alonso and Vettel as my drivers, not Hamilton.
Fair points but I think he had one good season that came down to the last lap of the season's last race. By no means a convincing season's racing and one that he's certainly not been able to repeat - nowhere near. For me, he's far from a 'seasoned winner'. No one at this level is without skill but he's not top flight within that because his attitude is all wrong.
14 February 2009
Hamilton is driving much better this season, but he still has some way to go. 4th place would have been sooo much better than DNF.
What shocked me was the sheer pace of Vettel.
20 March 2009
while it was definately Maldonado's fault, it still showed that little bit of maturity and "nouse" lacking in Hamilton. His tyres were shot, so he should have just nursed the car home for points ( ala Alonso in Canada).
Speaking of which, for me Alonso has been head and shoulders above the rest this season. He is over-achieving in the Ferrari. For me the jury is out on Vettel, great when starting from pole otherwise merely average.
28 January 2009
if I was the Principal of an F1 team I'd want Alonso and Vettel as my drivers, not Hamilton.
I think that's exactly what Luca and the boys in Maranello are thinking...
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28 January 2009
while it was definately Maldonado's fault, it still showed that little bit of maturity and "nouse" lacking in Hamilton. His tyres were shot, so he should have just nursed the car home for points ( ala Alonso in Canada).
Exactly. Both were silly boys, and showed the lack of real patience that Alonso manages to balance with superb aggression when required. Hamilton could have walked away with some points instead of none, and Maldonado could have walked away with another podium. Both ended up big losers through their poor judgment, although I would have though Maldonado deserved a more significant penalty a la KK in the Sauber.
Speaking of which, for me Alonso has been head and shoulders above the rest this season. He is over-achieving in the Ferrari. For me the jury is out on Vettel, great when starting from pole otherwise merely average.
I think Vettel is very, very good. But he is still young compared to Alonso (debuted 2001), Webber (debuted 2002), Massa (debuted 2002), Schumacher (debuted 1950?), Raikkonen (debuted 2001), Button (debuted 2000) and so on. He still has plenty of time to improve, and for me is far superior as an all-round package to Hamilton (both debuted 2007) or Rosberg (debuted 2006). In another five years, Vettel will be even greater while Hamilton could still be making the same mistakes he has repeatedly failed to learn from in recent years.
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