Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

I know autocar prefer the citroen DS3 and in ways I do agree I have driven both of them and loved them both. However some things I do prefer the mini over the citroen and other things I prefer the Citroen.

This is a problem for me especially considering that those two are the two I am most considering buying.

the citroen has things better than the mini in cases and mini have better things on it than the citroen which for one i think the mini has the most badge appeal, will hold its value the best and is probably the best made out the two.

However the citroen i think looks better, more unique car, more practical an better value for money but i am concerned about it being a citroen (sorry to citroen owners) with reliability

What do you think it is the better car to own and live with in the real world and just be honest.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

tomisdadude wrote:

i think the mini will hold its value the best.

However the citroen i think better value for money

a contradiction there.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

Just to add another perspective to this, Car magazine compared the Mini with DS3 and also VW Polo and Alfa Mito last month and this is how they ranked them. 1st Mini, 2nd Polo, 3rd DS3, 4th Mito.

Just focusing on Mini and DS3, they thought the Citroen was roomier and more practical, but Mini the better drive, with superior ride/handling, steering and better built and quicker.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

Overdrive wrote:

Just to add another perspective to this, Car magazine compared the Mini with DS3 and also VW Polo and Alfa Mito last month and this is how they ranked them. 1st Mini, 2nd Polo, 3rd DS3, 4th Mito.

Just focusing on Mini and DS3, they thought the Citroen was roomier and more practical, but Mini the better drive, with superior ride/handling, steering and better built and quicker.

DS3 are better why? 1. Car are so biased towards the mini at the end of the day they only care about performance (but car mag is still a good mag) 2. Car said that the girls that they asked really liked more than the mini they barely glanced at the mini 3. Topgear tv said it was the best car in category 4. Topgear magazine thought it was a good car also they are doing a long term test in the back of the magazine and he thought it was the best car in class " I've had a succesion of roughly similar cars-Mini Cooper, alfa mito, hot seat ibiza(bocanegra i think). Nut it's the Ds3 that hits the ideal driving compromise. 5. It looks amazing 6. someone i know very well has driven it and he really likes he says that it has that elegant french style that citroen lost decades ago that it can be sporty and felt composed on a fast b-road and that it is very comfortable 7. options, you can have all options ticked for 18k and standard equipment is very good if you specked it like for like with a mini your looking at well over 20k for a mini 8. It's special it's not like a mini no one really stops and stares at a mini anymore but they do for a ds3 9. The mini is a bit gimicky but that depends if you like that style or not (the retro styling) 10. Space a lot of space even able to fit bigger children comfortably in the back. and the boot is bigger

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

I have a mini cooper, and I enjoy driving it every time. Ok so they aren't exactly exclusive now, but they still stand out. I rather liked the DS3, but the biggest issue I have with it is that the C3 is very similar when you see one on the road coming towards you, and the interior has a horrid lower dash. Other wise, I would say that there is really no right or wrong answer. If you can live with both as a daily driver then go for the one that is giving you the best deal

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Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

The Mini. Like you I'd be a little worried about citroen reliability. If we are worried, so will second hand buyers be come upgrade time;-)

A Mini can be unique. There are loads of different styling options you can go for to make it unique. If you put some effort into that, you won't see a Mini which looks exactly like yours.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

vengey wrote:
The Mini. Like you I'd be a little worried about citroen reliability. If we are worried, so will second hand buyers be come upgrade time;-)
never thought about that Vengey.

also, you are right that you can have different styling to make it different from the rest. How many cars could get away with this on the roof?

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Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

I'm also considering the DS3 or MINI Cooper, as a replacement for my current (2nd) MINI. I have to admit to being concerned about resale values: I have found the MINI to be really strong in this area, and even though some sources are predicting 55% values for the Citroen I'm not convinced, especially as I've seen a row of delivery mileage DS3s lined up outside a local dealer for some time now. I guess it would make sense to hold off for a few years to see how it fares, and also to see how the reliability goes.

The main thing that puts me off the DS3, though, is that it is so similar to the C3. Sitting in the drivers seat there are so many similarities that I'm not sure its worth the extra outlay. As I've said before on here, the basic architecture of the MINI, with its upright windscreen, narrow pillars and letterbox view of the road just make it feel different from most other cars, which all seem to have the swept back, thick front pillars and long sloping screens.

Little things like the flimsy 'chrome' plastic exterior door handles, rather than the real metal ones on the MINI also make me wonder how much of the Citroen is not quite as substantial as it seems.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

tomisdadude wrote:
and just be honest.

Oof! a hard choice. I really like both. My car is three years old in September and I'm considering replacing it. Not really sure on what I'm after and am at the sitting in cars in the showroom stage making broom broom noises and fobbing off saleman's "can I help you" with a "just having a look thank you" (though I did test drive the Pug RCZ which I liked a lot and a Honda CRZ that I just liked). What has really impressed me was just how nice a place to be the DS and RCZ were. Really nice, well thought out interiors that were fresh, attractive and comfortable. The materials in both were a damn site better quality than most French cars I've had the misfortune to sit in in the past and, at the risk of sounding controversial, I'd say the RCZ and DS provided nicer driver environments than the Mini, Audi A3 and BMW 1 series.

To be honest I don't think there is a great difference between the reliability of the Mini and the DS and nowadays Citroens are much better screwed together than in the past.

Having said that I've driven Minis and love them. I love the pointy responsive handling and grip and though the DS is a very compitant car from a dynamic perspective (may even be the better car if comfort is your priority) I'd choose the Mini for its more sporty focus. I also think the Mini is the slightly better looker.

Whether you end up in the Mini or DS I wont be feeling sorry for you.

Hope that was honest enough.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

If reliability is an issue for you take a look at some customer satisfaction surveys and owners forums. Mini's aren't exactly known for their reliability either.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

I agree that the DS3 is more comfort orientated, though since MINI stopped fitting run-flats, and especially on smaller wheel sizes the MINI isnt as hard riding as many would have you believe...

Have you considered the A1? That seems to be coming out very favourably in tests against the MINI?

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

Citroen no question, make the MINI look a bit dated, doesn't it?

Peter Cavellini.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

If interior/boot space isn't a major issue how about a 500 Abarth? It's the only one of these small cars that makes me smile every time I see one.

Sadly, last for me would be the Mito. I want to like it but those cross-eyed headlights make it look like it's been kicked in the nuts.

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 11 weeks ago

Lee23404 wrote:

Sadly, last for me would be the Mito. I want to like it but those cross-eyed headlights make it look like it's been kicked in the nuts.

+1.

What I'm sure happened at Alfa was the designers took a look at the pretty Fiat Grande Punto and Bravo both with the Maserati front end and both very pretty and said "hey we can do that with the Mito and Giulietta and graft on the front of the 8C". And thus two Munters were born. Wonder if the Fiat big chiefs smacked the Grande Punto with the ugly stick when they made the Punto Evo in order to give the little Alfa the chance to at least look better than its Fiat cousin. Also wonder what the next Bravo will look like (In fact, hold my hand someone I'm frightened).

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 10 weeks ago

Lee23404 wrote:
Sadly, last for me would be the Mito. I want to like it but those cross-eyed headlights make it look like it's been kicked in the nuts.
I don't mind the styling of the mito, but that isn't its worst aspect. I took one for a test drive for an hour with out the sales man. Engine was brilliant (1.4.t 120bhp) but that is the best I can say. The ride makes my mini (16@ wheels on runflats) seem limo smooth, and the steering felt that it was connected by elastic bands. A massive dissappointment.

As for MINI's reliability, my experience is that it is no worse than any other car I've had, but the service I've had from the BMW dealer in Edinburgh has been poor at best. Even worse than mercedes when I had a smart!

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Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 10 weeks ago

Having driven both (own a Cooper Clubman & tried out a DS3) I'd go for the Mini without question. Although it drove OK, the DS3 for me gave a strong impression of being a cheap car (C3?) which has been tarted up, whereas the Mini just feels like it's had the quality engineered in. Why the Clubman? With two teenagers I needed the extra rear legroom. They also gave it the thumbs-up compared to everything else we looked at!

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 10 weeks ago

all these that are coming up like the MiTo, the Audi A1, Peugeot RCZ and i have considered ive even driven a MiTo but felt exacty the same as my current car a Fiat Grande Punto Sporting but with in my opinion a less attractive body and has the issues the punto has for instances the not fantastic gearbox and the numb steering.

The audi i do not like and hated with a passion the Volkswagen Polo i had a go in and considering they are the same car thats bad news and the reviews sound about the same for the polo and the A1

Peugeot insurance making it too expensive for me to run for me its like double over the mini and the citroen DS3 to insure.

thanks for your opinions about the DS3 and the mini still not certain but thanks for your input and you have given me more to consider

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 10 weeks ago

The Mini might be fun to drive, but it looks terribly overpriced compared with the DS3. It's cramped (very much so), rides harshly, isn't very well specced (you'd need to spec it up to get it in line with one of the 'standard' DS3s!). Additionally, if you read between the lines you'll see that most magazines are praising the DS3 as Citroen's "best-handling car in years". I'd personally go for the DS3 on the premise that it's different and not too common yet. The Mini is looking overpriced and old in comparison.

"The creative adult is the child who survived."

Re: Mini Cooper Or Citroen DS3 DSPORT

4 years 10 weeks ago

tomisdadude wrote:

thanks for your opinions about the DS3 and the mini still not certain but thanks for your input and you have given me more to consider

Like I said earlier if you end up in either car I wont feel sorry for you. Both are excellent little cars and I'm sure whatever one you end up in you will thoroughly enjoy your ownership of the car. Unfortunately, as both have their own strengths and weaknesses and different personalities, both which will appeal to you at different times and in different moods, whatever you choose there will be times you will be nagged by doubts as to whether or not you've made the right choice.

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