Are indicators getting smaller?

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Out and about just now, I noticed something I've never observed before - the above topic. 

Much has already been said about the current (and lamentable) vogue for putting indicators within the headlight/tail light/brake light, but this is different albeit linked.

First, at a roundabout, an Audi A1.  Maybe it's just because one rarely sees an Audi indicating Wink , but this was the first time I'd seen the A1 with a front blinker on.  They're tiny!  Buried in the inside top left of the headlamp, I barely saw it.  I divined his intention more from what lane he was in rather than any orange light I may have seen emanating from the car.  I know I should be grateful that he indicated at all, but it isn't an much of an encouragement to if the light's miniscule in the first place.

Second, I passed a stationary Kuga with its hazards on.  I never realised before what little rectangles the rears are.  They couldn't have taken up more than 1/8th of the total light cluster.

I'd supposed that with the advent of brighter LEDs lights in general wouldn't need to be so large, but they're still an emerging technology.  Few cars have them, but many seem to be styled as though they do - with the above result.

Anyone willing to offer up any other offenders?

You either accept a Morgan as you accept the Himalayas or you go on to more splendid things, say, butterfly collecting.  A Morgan merely is and that should be enough.

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I've never noticed that myself, but now that you mention it...

Slightly off topic, but still on indicators, I always get confused by the front of a 206. The indicators are right on the inside on the front!

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Fidji wrote:

I've never noticed that myself, but now that you mention it...

Slightly off topic, but still on indicators, I always get confused by the front of a 206. The indicators are right on the inside on the front!

We could branch out into "oddly-placed indicators", no problem (although going "slightly OT" within three posts must be some sort of record Wink ). 

Remember when the Chrysler Neon found its way over here?  The front indicators inboard but separate from the headlights was quite novel (for the UK).  Since the P206, I think a lot more manufacturers have taken to placing the front indicators inboard (and inside) of the headlights. 

You either accept a Morgan as you accept the Himalayas or you go on to more splendid things, say, butterfly collecting.  A Morgan merely is and that should be enough.

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Fidji wrote:

I've never noticed that myself, but now that you mention it...

Slightly off topic, but still on indicators, I always get confused by the front of a 206. The indicators are right on the inside on the front!

We could branch out into "oddly-placed indicators", no problem (although going "slightly OT" within three posts must be some sort of record Wink ). 

Remember when the Chrysler Neon found its way over here?  The front indicators inboard but separate from the headlights was quite novel (for the UK).  Since the P206, I think a lot more manufacturers have taken to placing the front indicators inboard (and inside) of the headlights. 

I'm going to have to look out for the early Chrysler Neons. I feel a bit out of my depth here, to be honest! I never really look at indicators in relation to the car they're on, but I bet I'll start looking out for them now!

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Fidji wrote:

I'm going to have to look out for the early Chrysler Neons. I feel a bit out of my depth here, to be honest! I never really look at indicators in relation to the car they're on, but I bet I'll start looking out for them now!

Neither did I really, until today.  I've no idea what made me notice them, either.

You either accept a Morgan as you accept the Himalayas or you go on to more splendid things, say, butterfly collecting.  A Morgan merely is and that should be enough.

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i think indicators tended to be moved in board at about the same time pretty much all cars got side repeaters (which i think is another EU rule, but if it is, its one of the few i am ok with)

I do find that the indicators in some cars with LED DRLs are much harder to see as they are located too close to the excessively bright LEDs.

A simelar problem exists with many VWs where the rear indicator is in the middle of the brake light making ssing it much harder on a braking car.

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artill wrote:

A similar problem exists with many VWs where the rear indicator is in the middle of the brake light making seeing it much harder on a braking car.

Indeed, and also with the Range Rover too, I think.

You either accept a Morgan as you accept the Himalayas or you go on to more splendid things, say, butterfly collecting.  A Morgan merely is and that should be enough.

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Not sure I've noticed them getting smaller but I do notice that the ones that are white rather than yellow when they're off are sometimes hard to see if you're at a particular angle.

You know, I do believe that is a 'pec'...

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There's a commitee somewhere in Europe that lays down the regs for this sort of thing, and they are doing a pretty poor job. Too many cars with white indicators, and lots of new cars with tiny rear indicators and badly positioned front ones. The old Punto always struck me as having poorly placed front indicators.

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The Ford I'vehadkidsnowmylifeisover Max has tiny, white lensed, inboard indicators, among the rear cluster somewhere.

I discovered this the other day as I nearly drove into the back of one as he negotiated a turn without braking, fair enough, but I thought he wasn't indicting either when, in fact, he was.

If I knew what I was getting into, I wouldn't have done it...and I would have been wrong.

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The Colonel wrote:

The Ford I'vehadkidsnowmylifeisover Max has tiny, white lensed, inboard indicators, among the rear cluster somewhere.

I discovered this the other day as I nearly drove into the back of one as he negotiated a turn without braking, fair enough, but I thought he wasn't indicting either when, in fact, he was.

Glad it's not just me then. Maybe there isn't an EU directive yet about white lenses. I've berated a few people lately, "Indicate you tossa!" only to find, once they travelled another 15 feet, that they were, in fact, indicating.

You know, I do believe that is a 'pec'...

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