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The Skoda Octavia is a dependable, quality car which is comfortable and pleasant to drive
You never mentioned the noise level of old 1.9 TDI engine, in your earlier drive of Skoda on 30 Nov. 2004, now you praise 1.6 TDI for being so silent, though others shifted 3-4 yrs. earlier than VW to silent common rail diesel that cuts noise level down, other like especially French and Italian makers. However as they are not VW brand, they do not deserve, even if VW has to copy them desperately.
Vicky said "though the gear-shift indicator can sometimes suggest a down-shift that will leave the engine floundering noisily too low down the rev range."
Don't you mean up-shift?
Noise of PD engines. They are noisy when new. They are a great deal quieter after the first 12k. They are great engines and generally less troublesome than some CR engines (naming no names). Get over it. PD engines were (and are) superb performers.
VW Group didn't have to copy anyone, because they have produced their
own CR diesel engines since 1999 ( the first one was Audi's 3.3 V8 TDI
). I think VW might have produced 1.9 or 2.0 diesel with this technology
as well, but they didn't, so they must have had some good reasons to
opt for PD.
It would appear that the VW Group agree with me when I say that the optimum number of gears for a manual gearbox connected to an internal combustion engine is 5 and not 6?
Does the reduced number of gearchanges results in better overall economy?
[quote Challenger440]Does the reduced number of gearchanges results in better overall economy?[/quote]
Depends on the driving. I'd rather have 6 gears - the reason being that when accelerating to motorway speeds I'd rather have good response in all gears without large gaps between, then with a very high final ratio for cruising. A 5 speed gearbox with a high final ratio does dull the responses in the other 4 gears as they get spaced out further. For me a 6 speed gearbox would provide the decent cruising economy I need with the flexibility of closer ratios. However, in EU fuel economy testing it makes sense to just fit a revised 5 speed as that's cheaper than a 6 speed.
Fancy naming it after a bus !
[quote theonlydt]However, in EU fuel economy testing it makes sense to just fit a revised 5 speed as that's cheaper than a 6 speed.[/quote]
I understand what your saying about rations that are stacked more closely, but VW and Skoda (and Seat?) all seem to be using 5 speed units in their 'eco-green' models - I've a feeling theres more to that decision than simply the cost delta between a 5 and 6 speed unit.
[quote Uncle Mellow]
I thought it was a parcel carrier!
Have we moved away from "blue" now?
I predict it will be purple in 5 years.
Back to FWD
This is undoubtedly a nice car but why would anybody spend £700 more on a Greenline? The normal SE with the same engine is £700 less and only does 2mpg more. If you were to average 62mpg in a Greenline instead of 60mpg in an SE you would need to travel about 250,000 miles to recover the extra cost (by my quick calculations based on £5 per gallon which are probably wrong).