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Mercedes-Benz E-Class

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18 March 2009

"The only real sticking point with the new Mercedes E220 CDI is the styling, which looks a little forced from some angles. But get past that and there is very little reason not to like it.

The Jaguar XF may be more sleek and stylish,..."

Am I really the only one getting fed up with this kind of "journalism"?

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? So what the f**k do I, as a reader, care about how some motoring journalist likes the styling of any particular car?

Personally I'm no Merc, yet a Honda fan. And personally, I think the new E-class looks great. The (current) BMW 5-series is both so ugly and such a commercial success, I belive it's made the streetscape horrible. The same goes for the current 3-series, facelifted or not.

And to mme, the XF is just a bigger Mondeo, albeit with (far) less character, due to far too many roundings and a far too rounded c-pillar in particular. In the metal it looks extremely bland and I suspect everyone will see this within a year or something. So by then, this ungainly "mussel nor fish" XF-thing will look very last generation. Stylish is the last word, I personally would associate the XF with. Like Clarckson described the 407coupé as a gay shark, the XF probably is a gay housecat.

Now the former is my, and thus a reader's opinion. Which goes to show that readers are perfectly capable of making up their own minds about any particular car's styling.

It would be a change for the better, if the car journalists could remember this and just stick to objective commentary instead of appreciating "coloris et gustibus".

I thank you in anticipation!

18 March 2009

I think it's fine, when journalist shows his opinion. Reading articles without authors own opinion is like eating of plastic (no taste). And author also used words like "may", not "surely" or "certainly".

18 March 2009

I have to say that the praise from a styling point of view is slightly over the top with regards to the xf. Obviously its my point of view, but while i don't think its horrible looking its got some of the the mondeo about it for me. On top of that, the fancy interior is not the best from a quality point of view in my book and has a nav system that is unfortunately behind the times. The car on the other hand drives fantastically and coupled with that chassis he high power varients will be brilliant.

I would like a little less of the jag loving though as i've already had eneugh of it with the pm in waiting - clarkson, its just boringme to tears and doesn't seem that objective.

Now I can stick my two pennies in about styling and say that I am sure I will get to like the new e class lines but never the led lights which are awful in my book. I know it brings up an old debate, but they are crass and horrible bling....ugh.

18 March 2009

[quote tommallett]

I would like a little less of the jag loving though as i've already had eneugh of it with the pm in waiting - clarkson, its just boringme to tears and doesn't seem that objective.

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Personally I am a Jaguar fan, and am happy to admit that the XF isn't bad looking at all but it could have been better - it could have been the C-XF concept. Lets hope the new XJ and XF coupe move more in that direction, or even further.

As for the Jag comparisons recently, styling is subjective, yes, but there is a consensus of opinion that the Jag is best in class at the moment and everything will naturally get compared to the class leader. It does seem to wind people up for some reason when it's Jaguar. It's happened for years with the BMW 3 / 5 series and no one complained then.

19 March 2009

[quote Orangewheels]As for the Jag comparisons recently, styling is subjective, yes, but there is a consensus of opinion that the Jag is best in class at the moment and everything will naturally get compared to the class leader. It does seem to wind people up for some reason when it's Jaguar. It's happened for years with the BMW 3 / 5 series and no one complained then.[/quote][quote Orangewheels]Personally I am a Jaguar fan, and am happy to admit that the XF isn't bad looking at all but it could have been better - it could have been the C-XF concept. Lets hope the new XJ and XF coupe move more in that direction, or even further.[/quote]

Fair point and i agree. However, the 5 and 3 series were and are not without their problems and i wouldn't claim that they are to be revered in all areas. However, some problems with the xf do seem to be over looked. for instance the sub standard interior fit and finish / quality, and the lack of decent engine varients, particularly a 520d / e220cdi competitor along with the lack of a shoothing brake (as I have mentioned in aother thread).

I will re-read this tomorrow and apologise for any mistakes as i am not compos mentis at the moment.

20 March 2009

What, no pics of the rear end? Wonder why...

Anyway, I do approve of this car being rated as enjoyable to drive, in its own way. Thank the lord for any Autocar hack able to see that cars needn't handle like trams and/or jump to light speed to deliver enjoyment.

Fact is, most of us would take comfort over slot car handling any day of the week. A soothing, quiet, solidly built cruiser can deliver more real world enjoyment on more occasions than some highly strung missile. A comfortable car is comfortable 100% of the time you're sat in it, whether you're plodding along in traffic or loping up the A1 with the family and luggage.

Seldom is a fast car able to go fast these days... and even when you do, the only reward is points and a fine. Or nagging from the better half!

27 October 2009

I have driven this car yesterday for cca. 150 miles and I can say that it is really the reference point in this class - a great car. The ride is perfect, the materials used very good quality, the engine is powerful enough (I would not bother with the bigger ones). It was a pleasure to drive it and I would be very sattisfied if I would own it.

GRB

31 October 2009

[quote MarkusMorelli]It was a pleasure to drive [/quote]

I'm driving one of these in Europe and have covered 780 miles so far.

I would only go so far and say it rides well. It does not handle though and the steering is wooly. Styling is strange. Went futuristic with the front and gave up with the rear, which is plain awful.

Interior is well built but very frustrating. IPOD jack connection only..and its in the glovebox..whats the point of that! The indicator stalk is not at the natural 10 to 2 postion so you keep hitting the cruise stalk. The bluetooth is rubbish and would not synch to mine or any of my other 3 colleagues phones.

Swapped the car with a colleagues XF for the weekend. We both agreed after that the Jag was the better car...rave reviews or not.

GRB

31 October 2009

I agree with you.

I plunged for the Merc, whilst several colleagues went for the XF (company cars!). You can see my review of the Merc below but I have to say I made a mistake with this one.

Had a BMW 525D before, which was a great car. Thought I would stay German but I cannot warm to this car.

The XF is something else. Just makes you feel darn special...where the Merc just blends in with all the other Euro Taxi's. My colleagues take great pleasure in pointing this out.

Sadly I have to endure another 11months of the Merc... then i'm going for either an XF 3.0d Lux or another 5 Series.

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