The best 208 by a vast distance. Don’t think about a 4-cyl car until you’ve read this

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16 March 2012

It's as much an indication of how poor the Peugeot's 1.4 is, as how good the 1.2 is. There are so many 4 cylinders willing to rev, it doesn't mean they all do though, same with three cylinder. I doubt Ford's 1.0 ecoboost creates such a substantial weight difference compared to the 1.6, as the 1.2 and 1.4 here.

16 March 2012

Interesting performance / economy from this non-turbo 3 pot. Imagine a small turbo bolted on - minimal extra weight but with 25% more power, now that could be modern GTi with - by modern standards - warm hatch figures.

17 March 2012

so far this looks to be the sweet spot in the range, and once stop start gets fitted it will fall well below the magic 100g/km too, which in a car the size of a 208 with petrol power is unheard of.

I too would like to see a bigger of turbo'd version of this new 3 pot, that would make the car truely amazing.

I would also like to see this engine find its way into the current 107 before it dies. That could be the power unit for the sporty version that car has been crying out for.

17 March 2012

This engine appears to be great, and the car it's in seems equally fantastic. I'm glad Peugeot has kept the weight down as well. I think this car will be best in its class.

17 March 2012

[quote theonlydt]It's as much an indication of how poor the Peugeot's 1.4 is, as how good the 1.2 is. There are so many 4 cylinders willing to rev, it doesn't mean they all do though, same with three cylinder. I doubt Ford's 1.0 ecoboost creates such a substantial weight difference compared to the 1.6, as the 1.2 and 1.4 here.[/quote]

Well the 1.4 was co developed with BMW, is carried over from the 207 and is used in the Mini, so it cant be that bad - can it?

What we should really be talking about is the weight saving, the 208 is apparently model for model approximately 100kg lighter than the 207, and now they have shaved off another 95kg with a new engine that sounds very good fun, if any other manufacturer had shaved off for the sake of argument 200kgs off a new model they would be shouting from the rooftops.

If they can save that off a supermini I wonder what they can do with the replacement for the 308. If this was BMW or Audi reducing weight by that amount it would be headline news.

17 March 2012

[quote artill]so far this looks to be the sweet spot in the range[/quote]Agreed. It looks as if Peugeot could've turned a corner here. Although beige does it no favours. [quote artill]I would also like to see this engine find its way into the current 107 before it dies[/quote]As magical as that would be, I'm doubtful :( as an Aygo owner I can only imagine how fun it would be in said triplets! However, I suspect the 1.0 that is also available in the 208 will be offered in the next-gen triplets, so who knows... maybe this 1.2 will be, too!

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17 March 2012

The 1.4 wasn't exactly the best engine around and this make the comparison easier for the new 1.2 3 cylinders. I experienced the 3 cylinders in the last Polo, my sister owns one. It's ok for the city but out town and in motorway it feels low powered. The extra bhp of this may be useful.

17 March 2012

[quote turini]Interesting performance / economy from this non-turbo 3 pot. Imagine a small turbo bolted on - minimal extra weight but with 25% more power[/quote]

As far as i'm aware, that will happen soon-ish. Probably with the launch of the new 308/1 next year, or maybe even with the 2008 later this year.

Having seen the car this week ( i had a drive near the place where the test drives are happening ) i have to say it looks better in real life. Less busy. But that greyish pink color is truly hideous.

17 March 2012

[quote Autocar]Three cylinder engines, so long an oddball configuration, seem soon to become the norm. Vauxhall, VW and Ford have them and we can now add Peugeot.[/quote]

Have we forgotten the 107?

18 March 2012

[quote Nobby Hightinkle]Have we forgotten the 107[/quote]

The fact that its a Daihatsu engine and not used in any other Peugeot is why its not mentioned.

This new Peugeot engine sounds impressive though compared to the 107's given the very simelar CO2 figures, yet superior performance in a much bigger car.

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