An AMG-developed Porsche 911 rival is expected to get the go-ahead thanks to strong SLS sales

An AMG-developed Porsche 911 rival is expected to get the go-ahead as a result of the sales success of the Mercedes SLS coupé and roadster. Mercedes sources have long indicated that they would like to establish the AMG brand among the supercar elite, but only if there was a sound business case for doing so — something profits from the SLS have helped to prove is possible.

“AMG is a financial company and runs with targets, just like every other company,” said AMG boss Ola Kallenius when asked about the possibility of extending the range of cars developed by Mercedes’ performance brand. “These products can’t just be built for fun. We need a reasonable return to new fund projects.

“But the SLS has a return, as well as succeeding by building a brand and being fascinating technologically. Could we grow the family? Probably, yes, but that is not a decision we’ve made at this stage,” he said.

“What is clear is that we have entered a segment with an overwhelming reaction from customers and fans — and many of them are entirely new customers to AMG — so it would certainly be the right strategy to grow the AMG brand.”

The mooted new £80,000 two-seater is expected to form the entry-level point for what would become a much wider stand-alone AMG range, and could be on sale as soon as late 2013.

Power is likely to come from an all-new 500bhp twin-turbocharged 5.4-litre V8, which will sit in the front-mid position and drive the rear wheels. That should mean Porsche 911 Carrera S-rivalling performance of 0-62mph in 4.5sec and a top speed of 180mph. Coupé and roadster variants are also expected to be built.

Jim Holder

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7 February 2012

I really like AMG tuned cars, i think the V8s and V12s are terrific engines, so the more AMG tuned cars to come the better i say.

This concept looks rather good to. Keep up the good work AMG

7 February 2012

[quote Autocar]An AMG-developed Porsche 911 rival is expected to get the go-ahead as a result of the sales success of the Mercedes SLS coupé and roadster. Mercedes sources have long indicated that they would like to establish the AMG brand among the supercar elite, but only if there was a sound business case for doing so — something profits from the SLS have helped to prove is possible.

“AMG is a financial company and runs with targets, just like every other company,” said AMG boss Ola Kallenius when as... Read the full article[/quote]

For all the 911 detractors out there, notice the headline "Merc to give 911 rival green light". Still the benchmark after how many years?

7 February 2012

[quote Boris911]

[quote Autocar]An AMG-developed Porsche 911 rival is expected to get the go-ahead as a result of the sales success of the Mercedes SLS coupé and roadster. Mercedes sources have long indicated that they would like to establish the AMG brand among the supercar elite, but only if there was a sound business case for doing so — something profits from the SLS have helped to prove is possible.

“AMG is a financial company and runs with targets, just like every other company,” said AMG boss Ola Kallenius when as... Read the full article[/quote]

For all the 911 detractors out there, notice the headline "Merc to give 911 rival green light". Still the benchmark after how many years? [/quote]

I completely agree with you there

7 February 2012

Good luck to them but I find it hard to get excited. So it has 500 bhp and costs 80,000; it's just another competitor in a busy niche. I am much more interested in cars like the Toyobaru, or designs that address conflicting priorities like ride and handling (MP12, Evora) or roominess within compact dimensions (Jazz). Still waiting for a car that offers genuine luxury (dynamics, not just gizmos) within a small size and at a reasonable price.

7 February 2012

[quote 275not599]

Good luck to them but I find it hard to get excited. So it has 500 bhp and costs 80,000; it's just another competitor in a busy niche. I am much more interested in cars like the Toyobaru, or designs that address conflicting priorities like ride and handling (MP12, Evora) or roominess within compact dimensions (Jazz). Still waiting for a car that offers genuine luxury (dynamics, not just gizmos) within a small size and at a reasonable price.

[/quote] Ride, noise, comfort are to me the measures of luxury. Also maybe space as suggested by Renault in their Espace advertising some time back. How ironic with them exiting the UK market. As far as the AMG challenger is concerned, I have always thought of AMG and Merc for that matter, as just using displacement or forced induction to get results whereas I see Porsche in a slightly different light.

7 February 2012

They'll have a hard time rivalling the 911 if the AMG Mercs I've driven are anything to go by. Nice as they were, pimping just won't be enough, so a fundamental shift in their m.o. will be required, reinvention almost. And can they just do, at the drop of a hat, what Porsche have built up over so many years?

7 February 2012

[quote 275not599]

Good luck to them but I find it hard to get excited. So it has 500 bhp and costs 80,000; it's just another competitor in a busy niche. I am much more interested in cars like the Toyobaru, or designs that address conflicting priorities like ride and handling (MP12, Evora) or roominess within compact dimensions (Jazz). Still waiting for a car that offers genuine luxury (dynamics, not just gizmos) within a small size and at a reasonable price.

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Completely agree!

Also is it really going to be a Porsche rival or is it just going to be another comfortable, brutally quick but dynamically so so car which is in the 911 class?

It will sell though, I have no doubt.

 

 

It's all about the twisties........

7 February 2012

[quote Boris911]For all the 911 detractors out there, notice the headline "Merc to give 911 rival green light". Still the benchmark after how many years?[/quote]

Let's put it this way. The i30 is a rival to the Cee'd. Whilst the Cee'd is a very good car, I wouldn't call it 'the benchmark'.

7 February 2012

I think the rendering looks pretty good, and the twin-turbo AMG engine has been well-received in the E-Class and CLS.

I reckon the roadster version would sell better, but then again, I wouldn't turn down the coupe. So long as it rides quite nicely and handles with a superb blend of precision and 'oversteeriness' like AMGs I've driven, then I think it should be pretty good.

7 February 2012

[quote Fidji]handles with a superb blend of precision and 'oversteeriness'[/quote] Precision is the last word I'd use to describe the handling of the AMGs I've driven. Teg is spot on when he says "dynamically so so".

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