Seat's Geneva show concept car highlights a close-to-production version of the next Toledo
6 March 2012

The fourth-generation Seat Toledo is previewed by this close-to-production study which is on display at today's Geneva motor show. The Toledo Concept shows that the production version, which is due to go on sale at the end of 2012, will have a sleek hatchback-come-saloon design.

See official pictures of the new Seat Toledo Concept

The Toledo slots into the Seat model range between the Ibiza and Leon and will mark a dramatic departure from the third-generation Toledo, which was a booted version of the tall-bodied Altea hatchback.

Seat is emphasising practicality and value-for-money with the new Toledo, positioning the car as a hatchback with plentiful load-lugging capability. It possesses a large rear hatch to enable easy loading and a folding rear bench. With the rear seats up, the boot has a capacity of more than 500 litres.

At 4480mm, the Toledo Concept is 165mm longer than the current Seat Leon and has a wheelbase of 2600mm. It is a similar width to the Ibiza, which is 1693mm.

The Toledo Concept’s exterior styling is a further development of Seat’s design language and bears a close family resemblance to the Skoda MissionL concept shown at Frankfurt last year.

The trapezoidal front grille has been given a very wide and low design, and the Toledo Concept has an aggressive front headlamp shape that’s part of Seat’s new design language. Large rear doors ease entry to the back seats, and a shallow angle to the rear windscreen emphasises the concept’s coupé-like shape.

The production Toledo will be built on the Volkswagen Group’s ‘AO-plus’ platform, a more sophisticated version of the ‘AO-entry’ platform that underpins cars such as the Indian-market Volkswagen Vento. The production Toledo’s engine line-up will be drawn from the latest range of Volkswagen Group powerplants.

The new Toledo will be a sister car to the forthcoming Skoda Rapid, which is the official production name for the MissionL concept seen at last year’s Frankfurt motor show. According to Seat sources, the new Toledo will cost about €13-14,000 in Spain, suggesting its price tag could be £13-14,000 when it arrives in the UK early next year.

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2 March 2012

So VW is persisting with SEAT, eh? Well, I hope they make a success of the brand, but they really need to give it a proper individual identity of its own. I've always felt VW could/should brand SEAT as an "affordable sporty" marque next to the bread & butter Skoda, the aspirational VW itself and the Premium Audi.

As for this Toledo, it kind of looks, err, fat to me eyes and not exactly the sporty/dynamic look I was hoping for. Interior seems nice enough though.

2 March 2012

SEAT is doomed if that's the best it can do.

If you look at the third picture (of the side profile) the rear wheel arch is out of proportion with the acres of metal above it. It doesn't work.

And the detailing is bland too. It manages to make the Exeo look like the more up to date car.

Really disappointing.

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2 March 2012

[quote Autocar]The fourth-generation Seat Toledo is previewed by this close-to-production study which will go on display at the Geneva motor show next week. The Toledo Concept, seen in these official photographs, shows that the production version, which is due to go on sale at the end of 2012, will have a sleek hatchback-come-saloon design.

See official pictures of the new Seat Toledo Concept

The To... Read the full article[/quote] Loved the original Toledo did thousands of miles in them, nearly bought a Mk11 but there wasn't enough legroom for our kids, last version was gross so never gave it a try. This looks fine to me, but I thought SEAT were losing money and time was running out? Is this the best they can do (someone else asks) of course not - they could just stick a badge on a Passat - VAG - let's face it they know what they're doing.

2 March 2012

[quote supermanuel]

If you look at the third picture (of the side profile) the rear wheel arch is out of proportion with the acres of metal above it. It doesn't work.

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I was trying to figure out what was wrong with the side view. It just didn't look right. Then I read your comment and you hit the nail on the head. The design creates an optical illusion that makes it look like the rear wheel is smaller than the front wheel. It just looks wrong.

2 March 2012

It seems like a very 'safe' design - solid enough, unassuming, not about to rock the world (unlike the last Toledo which was one of the weirdest things...). Interior looks usual VAG parts bin quality......

.....but - those chaps at KIA and Hyundai must be rubbing their hands in glee.

2 March 2012

Ok, a few thoughts. Firstly, if it is going to cost €13-14k then why does that equate to £15k in the uk? That should mean it would cost around 11-12k?

Interesting to see its width is the same as an Ibiza, surely a good thing

not sold on the styling. There's no flair to the design. It's kinda like how the Mii doesn't look as good as the up or the citygo. No reason not to like it, but it just doesn't gel.

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2 March 2012

[quote superstevie]There's no flair to the design.[/quote]

Agreed - it lacks imagination. That said, there is a certain utilitarian appeal about both the interior and exterior.


2 March 2012

[quote supermanuel]If you look at the third picture (of the side profile) the rear wheel arch is out of proportion with the acres of metal above it. It doesn't work.[/quote] That's exactly like the Astra GTC, whose rear arch contrives to make 19" 235 section tyres look too small. When I was a lad, "concept cars" were exciting flights of fantasy, not pre-production versions of terminally dull and derivative saloons.

2 March 2012

Come on SEAT, this design is just not good enough. It is neither good looking or forward thinking and is just plain boring and dated! Even the interior is average.

Am I surprised though?

No.

The guy behind this is the same designer who came up with the Samsung SM5 (which became a Renault in some markets if I remember correctly) and that was also bland and barely passable.

That's not what the brand is supposed to be about and certainly not what they have been producing until now. Okay, the Leon / Altea design may not have been to everyones tastes but it was different.

SEAT, go back to the drawing board or you won't be around in five years!

 

 

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2 March 2012

[quote Mr£4worth] Is this the best they can do (someone else asks) of course not - they could just stick a badge on a Passat - VAG - let's face it they know what they're doing.[/quote]

The trouble is, they've never really known what they were doing, not after the first few years of full ownership at least.

This was an opportunity to come up with something beautifully styled and sporting that could have been the first in a line of compact cars achieving the originally stated aim of turning Seat into an Alfa beater (I know) but instead it's an inferior version of a Skoda.

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