Italian team will not be punished further for the team orders scandal at the German GP

Ferrari has escaped further punishment for allegedly employing team orders at the German grand prix.

The FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) met in Paris today to discuss whether Ferrari should face any further sanctions for appearing to order Felipe Massa to concede the lead of the race to Fernando Alonso.

The team was fined $100,000 in the immediate aftermath of the race and had expected to be punished further today.

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But Angelo Sticchi Damiani, head of Italian motorsport federation the CSAI, told reporters outside the meeting that the WMSC had unanimously agreed not to impose any further sanctions on Ferrari.

Ferrari claimed Massa himself had decided to concede the lead, despite his engineer Rob Smedley informing him that Alonso was faster and if he understood what that message meant. Smedley later apologised to Massa when the Brazilian lost the lead.

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8 September 2010

Ferrari International Assistance (FIA) strikes again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 September 2010

The Fine was enough.

Can't single out Ferrari when other teams have claimed this "Fuel maximisation" crap to basically do the same thing.

The rules will be changed so teams don't have to be as creative with the excuses....

8 September 2010

Absolutely outrageous; they should have lost all their Manufacturers Championship points!

As the man above says Ferrari International Assistance (FIA) strikes again!!

8 September 2010

[quote jsfletcher61]Absolutely outrageous; they should have lost all their Manufacturers Championship points![/quote]

Off the mark completely in my opinion! Ferrari did well applying team orders in Germany not only because of the advantage they gained but because they made a mockery of one of the most ridiculous rules ever to exist in any kind of sport.

They exposed how short-sighted FIA was when they established it!

This not a rule this is a play with words and Ferrari never told "felipe move away for Fernando to pass" so they played by the rules.

Noone is authorised in my opinion to tell Ferrari or every other team how to run their business. The only one who lost was Massa and if he is fine with it who are we to say different?

I didn't see anyone raving when Mclaren said to Button in Turkey "save petrol".

F1 is nevertheless a team order and if you want to ban team orders you have to ban teams first...

8 September 2010

[quote PHILBY]This not a rule this is a play with words and Ferrari never told "felipe move away for Fernando to pass" so they played by the rules.[/quote]@Wingroad about the FIA very good and funny . They did they Said Quate , Fernando is faster then you understand , too me that is saying let him by and they did not say it once they said it twice as Massa did not do what they wanted the first time . Here is what Massa should have said bach and is what I would have said if I was him , Cool thats good am sure when he gets a chance he will try pass me , Thats what should happen and what Massa should have said . Its racing if one team driver is faster than the other cool then go and pass if you are they should not have to relie on team orders and should not do a Vettel either and take his team mate or thereselves out .

8 September 2010

How about Alonso and Hamilton in Montecarlo 2007? Or Massa and Raikkonen in Brazil, same year? "Save fuel" or "Fernando is faster than you" are really so different? Team order ban is a joke. That's why FIA will lift the ban. It's not an easy rule to handle, and teams are "teams", the constructors' championship is a team thing... Fia couldn't do any different. I'm sorry for those bulls that get angry only when they see red cars, but this time (not only this time, I suspect) they are badly wrong.

8 September 2010

There is an inherent flaw in the argument that because other teams may have broken the rule and gotten away with it, the natural response is to remove the rule. The more appropriate response would be to ensure the rule is actually taken seriously by increasing scrutiny and imposing more serious penalties. I would not imagine people would argue similarly for the crime of murder to be revoked simply because Jack the Ripper was never caught (to use an example Mark Lawrence used on pitpass, and all credit to him for it). All F1 has really demonstrated with this decision, and the build-up to it, is that it places very little value on honesty and sportsmanship, and for that reason my respect for it is at an all-time low. A sad day in the sport's history for me.

8 September 2010

Ferrari International Assistance.

How to remain objective?

I didn't remember that was today.

This morning when I took my breakfast, I read (it isn't good during a meal...) my AutoHebdo (a french motorsport magazine).

And I thought about the shameful confiscation of the great victory of Hamilton of the 2008 Belgian GP.

Curious coincidence...

What to do? Take your money from Santander?

8 September 2010

Aside from Mike Lawrence being very bitter, it is a silly parallel. Being caught is only the start of it...one needs evidence to prosecute a transgression, and that is where article 39.1 falls down, because whether it is overt, covert, or just plain suspected, unless someone that is in a position to do something about it hears a team say to a driver "You, slow down and let him pass" there is very little in the way of evidence that can be useful in successfully prosecuting it.

I personally wouldn't be so crass as to draw parallels with a capital crime and a breach of rules in a sport, but if you're game; if a successful prosectution for murder could only be brought if there was a photograph of the accused actually in the process of commiting the murder, you'd want the law changed, wouldn't you?

8 September 2010

Shocking that us F1 fans have been cheated again, and by a team I used to support.

The truth is that Alonso couldn't pass without assistance, without Massa being told to move over. We lost the chance to see if Alonso is above average or not.

This year really has tested the resolve of the F1 fan. Starting with such a boring race in Bahrain we've only seen exciting races when it's been wet. Or acts of stupidity and crashes.

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