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Dec 19 2008

End of the road for our 'E'

Mike Duff

So after three months and 5000 miles together, we've finally finished with our 'W124' Mercedes E280. You'll be able to read another story in the magzine in a couple of weeks time - and we're even producing another video.

Merc1_2 But for now, it's sitting in the car park enjoying a well-deserved rest.

To be honest, I was surprised by the amount of interest that a £1000 Merc on the brink of bangerdom produced. But in terms of letters, emails and forum traffic, it looks like the idea of trading down into a well-chosen exec is an idea that more people are starting to have.

And, despite our E-class's various faults - most of them down to its aged electrical system - I've enjoyed pretty much every mile I spent in it. It made me reconsider the way I viewed old, non-classic cars.

Yes, in purely economic terms spending over £500 a year to keep a £1000 car on the road - figures reached by 'annualizing' the outgoings during its time with us - does not make a huge amount of sense. But choosing a faded star like an E-class does enable you to travel in the sort of comfort and class that you're never going to find in a similarly cheap Golf or Astra.

My logic is that an old E-class is best seen as a cut-price alternative to a 15-year old Bentley or Roller rather than a particularly rational way to cut motoring costs. And I know that I'm going to miss our E-class more than any other car I've owned or run over the years.

Which brings me to your chance to land yourself a bit of Autocar history. We're selling the E-class on, so that somebody else can continue to enjoy its slightly faded charms. It's got MOT until next August, tax until the end of January, most of a service history and a mere 112,000 miles showing on the odometer.

It’s also sitting on four new tyres with a sump full of fresh oil.

Expressions of interest - as close as possible to the £1000 we paid for the thing - should be made to autocar@haymarket.com

Happy bidding!

 

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About Mike Duff

Used to edit this website, but now back to reporting from the road - and contemplating which sub-£1000 1990s German executive to buy next

Comments

TegTypeR December 19, 2008 12:40 PM

What's rational about running a car anyway.  When running something older, its not about how much it costs you to keep on the road, its about how much it costs you full stop.

If you've spent £500 a year (your average figure) and you spent out £1000 on buying it, even if you throw it away at the end of that year then that is ONLY £1500.

Buy a new car, drive it off the forecourt and then realise you've just lost £3000, it starts to make sense.

Also, how much do you feel that you have been deprived of motoring wise, whilst you've been running it?  Not a lot I'd guess.

W124 December 19, 2008 10:31 PM

The estates are always knackered.  Excellent story though.  They are addictive those cars and you may find it's replacement lacks class...

vidfletch December 19, 2008 11:52 PM

I agree with TegTypeR about the costs. Mike Duff's statement about spending £500 a year on maintenance not making sense is THE most non-sensical thing I have heard in a long time!

A £1000 car can't depreciate any more than that. The car is most likely to have been purchased outright so no monthly repayments. A £10,000 car could cost you £500 a year in maintenance but you would be paying every month on top just to "own" it! Those payments are in part paying for the money you are losing in depreciation!

As I said in other threads about this car, I wouldn't buy one having owned one. They are NOT reliable. Wear and tear is acceptable and service parts are cheap but too many things break on them that DO cost a fortune. Most owners of these throw stupid amounts keeping them going and announce that they are VERY reliable. So while spending money on maintenance is acceptable, it's not acceptable if you're having to spend it all the time or it's constantly off the road!

Buy a VW or Audi next. They tend not to break so much and are cheaper if they do.

horseandcart December 20, 2008 11:43 AM

Mike, by amazing coincidence the German mag/website Autobild(www.autobild.de) has just gone through an extensive 'experience' with a Merc W124 200T, 1986, 121,000 kilometres and €2,300 cost:

www.autobild.de/.../gebrauchtwagen-mercedes-w124-t_717276.html

If you or other readers here('W124' first candidate?) are interested, would translate the salient points in order to be able to compare with your example and experience.

vidfletch December 21, 2008 12:16 AM

From what I could translate from that, the exhaust valve on No.4 cylinder broke destroying the head. The cheapest option was a "good" used engine as apparently the fuel injection system was knackered too.

950 Euros for the engine and 500 Euros to fit it it.

Other parts generally needing replacing cost about 2300 Euros.

They also fixed the rust and resprayed it for 2500 Euros!

All this and it was owned by an old man who never went more than 50mph and it had only covered 75500 miles! So 6250 Euros not including purchase although they didn't really need the respray. All this on the least desirable model of W124 estate.

W124 December 22, 2008 12:18 AM

I must admit the W124 E220 I've got at the moment has been a total nightmare from the off, possibly the most unreliable car I've owned.  I feel better for saying that...  It's cost a fortune to keep it on the road.   My faith in this model has been shaken since I adopted the internal designation for my Login name on this site as it goes.  The thing is, as many have rightly pointed out, the money you need to maintain these things as per Merc's stipulations would keep any car on the road.  I could not honestly say they really are that reliable (Although the 320TE I had before was pretty good).  The real reason I like these cars is the excellence of the design and the comfort.  I also have to say that an old estate is always a bad idea in reliability terms simply because of the way they have been used.  If autocar had bought a saloon it might have been a different story...  But maybe not.  I'm buying a GS Lexus next.

lambo1 December 22, 2008 3:16 PM

I own a GS Lexus and its an incredibly reliable car unlike my previous 2 mercs, My wife drives and old shed of a Passat and the thing just keeps going and going and going dispite 240k on the clock- sometimes its just luck

vidfletch December 22, 2008 3:39 PM

My W124 estate had covered well under 10,000 miles a year over it's 18 years when I got it, so not a hard life. It was probably broken down for most of those years!!!

IMSA December 31, 2008 4:18 PM

I'm a big lad and frankly, I'd look stupid stepping out of a Ford Ka, so I've always gone for big cars.  My last one was 1994 C Class which left me with 141,000 miles on the clock.  I now have a 2001 Volvo S80, currently with 162,500 miles on it, which I intend to keep for at least another two years.

I agree with the comment that you simply don't get the level of comfort from an equivalently priced family hatchback or supermini, despite the fact it might be newer or have less mileage.

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