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re: Porsche GT2 v Corvette ZR1 - how the film was made

beachland2 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:52:44 GMT

thats quite a good point, but my point is that if they did exhaustive testing of both cars with both drivers which they did, then their skill is irrelevant, the porche was still quicker even with the slower driver driving it.

i dont see how you can dispute that result but i'm open to hearing it.

re: Porsche GT2 v Corvette ZR1 - how the film was made

jackjflash — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:26:22 GMT

Yeah and George W. Bush has a Harvard MBA; get my point?

re: Porsche GT2 v Corvette ZR1 - how the film was made

March1 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:36:06 GMT

>> rather than a couple of cubicle hacks for this kind of (scientific?) testing

I think you'll find those "hacks" both have racing licences. Why not accept what is written?

re: Goodwood or bust

HiltonH — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:15:14 GMT

Well Lancia

1.30pm on Tuesday, Goodwood at 5.30pm today. And huge amounts of photography, as you'll see in the magazine.

re: Porsche GT2 v Corvette ZR1 - how the film was made

Fairplay — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:34:55 GMT

So you cheated, and it shows! This video is nothing like as good as the one for the original 911 v. Corvette feature. Frankly guys, it feels dull. With something like 1000-hp to play with, I would expect something with a bit more punch!

re: Goodwood or bust

Lanciaman — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:19:53 GMT

I don`t want to sound too disparaging, and presumably you were slowed down by the constraints of taking photographs, but 3 days from Maranello to Goodwood is hardly a dash, is it?

re: Porsche GT2 v Corvette ZR1 - how the film was made

jackjflash — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:18:20 GMT

Nice disclaimer, I think I trust the Motortrend comparo with a seasoned race driver on a variety of surfaces/tracks rather than a couple of cubicle hacks for this kind of (scientific?) testing. Your budget will not allow for a trip to Silverstone; a much more appropriate venue for the cars? I am also sure there are loads of qualified “race” drivers in Europe that would be more than happy to wring the best from each car for little or no pay. Your science is not very good science, just an impression of two (journalists?).

re: Goodwood or bust

Scott B — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:19:11 GMT

Hope they paid you union rates.

re: Goodwood or bust

kerrecoe — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:15:18 GMT

lucky sod.

re: What car am I driving? Here's a few clues...

hamishl — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:01:05 GMT

The production cars actually didn't use the high mounted mirrors - legislation wouldn't allow it. Only the prototype did used them (I got that from, I think, an official book on the car, so presumably it's true).

re: What car am I driving? Here's a few clues...

Peloton25 — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:52:17 GMT

I posted similar comments with the video:

I think we're looking at Nick Mason's GTR #10R, having been redone in its original presentation livery with the yellow "GTR" logo graphic splashed across the nose and side of the car. Here's an image of that for those who aren't familiar:

img.photobucket.com/.../96gtr_1024.jpg

Another clue giving credibility to this being GTR #10R is the gold dial to the right of the instrument cluster. I'm not certain of its function, but in photos the labels for turning it in different directions say "Front" and "Rear" - perhaps brake bias? The GTR being offered now by DK Engineering (GTR#16R) has no similar dial in this location.

One problem with a comment in Steve's blog about this car:

Steve Sutcliffe:

"...although at one time it did compete at Le Mans."

This car - if it is GTR #10R, and that seems the most likely possibility - never competed at LeMans. It ran only in the practice session at the Pre-Qualifying event for the 1996 24-Hour race wearing race number 53 for the Kokusai Kaihatsu Racing team, setting a lap of 3:54,573. A different 1996 GTR (chassis #11R) was the one that actually competed in the 24-hour event for that team wearing race number 53. So, other than that single practice, to my knowledge and from my records I have no other evidence that GTR #10R was ever raced - and certainly not at LeMans.

>8^)

re: What car am I driving? Here's a few clues...

pitfield — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:25:53 GMT

It's an amazing piece of kit, never to be repeated, mostly because of safety legislation, I doubt that such a light powerful car could be made legal again.

The 0-60 times were recorded at the time with old school tyres, all those years of tyre technology improvements, electronic driver stuff, etc; have made a difference

re: What car am I driving? Here's a few clues...

jsr123 — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:47:19 GMT

Hamish is right, Steve is indeed behind the wheel of the Mc F1 GTR. Does anyone know why the racer used what looks like TVR Cerbera mirrors, in place of the production cars smaller, higher-mounted items?

To this day, few supercars have matched, or come close to the MC F1 in ride, handling or even performance terms. Various Koeniggseg's, Ferrari's Enzo and Bugatti's Veyron, beat the brit to sixty and will do in excess of the MC F1's 240 mph but I doubt that any are as well-rounded.

The central seating position and mellifluous wail of the car's fettled BMW V12, visible and audible in Steve's vid., were instant giveaways for me. I look forward to watching the full version in the Autumn :)

Oh and did anyone else check out DK engineering's stocklist, accessible from their website link above? What an eye-watering collection of exotica. That Ferrari 365 GTC looks sublime in dark, metallic blue (from side on it looks remarkably like Volvo's legendary P1800 Coupe) and I love the colour combo. of that silver, Ferrari Dino 246 GTS. I wonder if the mooted spiritual successor to the prancing horse's first mid-engined, mass produced car, will capture as many hearts :)

re: What car am I driving? Here's a few clues...

hamishl — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:45:40 GMT

As the McLaren F1 GTR. Sorry about all the posts, I've got a headcold.

re: What car am I driving? Here's a few clues...

hamishl — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:44:40 GMT

And I just did a quick Google image search, and the air vents and electronic dash are the same