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Dec 17 2008

Canning the NSX? Honda should be ashamed

Andrew Frankel

Is Honda’s decision to can the next NSX motivated by prudence or myopia? As a fan of the original I bow to no-one, so perhaps my vision is more rose-tinted than it should be, but I incline strongly towards the latter view.

The NSX is the car that changed the supercar landscape. It might not have sold very well over here (even though it did succeed elsewhere and in the US particularly), but the value of such cars can never be counted in sales figures alone. It became the supercar benchmark: when Gordon Murray was designing the McLaren F1, he didn’t look at Ferraris and Lamborghinis, he looked at – then drove, then bought – an NSX, which he then kept as his everyday car for years.

Read more about what made the original NSX so great

Before the NSX, Ferrari’s staple was the fairly awful 348, which transformed soon afterwards into the really rather wonderful F355, and I have no doubt which car gave Maranello the kick up the backside that it sorely needed.

No one will ever be able to calculate how much kudos the NSX rained down on Honda’s head as a company of outstanding innovation and engineering excellence any more than we’ll ever know how much damage will now be done to that reputation now that its replacement has been killed.

But the bit I really don’t get is why it’s been axed. Clearly the market is in terrible trouble at the moment, but it will recover as it always has, and when it does the cars that enthusiasts with money will want to buy will be lightweight, ultra-efficient and usable every day.

These are precisely the values upon which the NSX set out its stall when it was first shown almost exactly 20 years ago. If it was a three-tonne SUV Honda was culling I’d understand in an instant, but the very fact that Honda kept the old car in production for 15 years – for much of it as a loss-leader – showed how important the light it cast was to the brand.

But today the values upon which the NSX was conceived have been tossed aside in pursuit of what Honda’s boss describes as ‘achieving mass-market penetration as soon as possible…’ It’s an attitude I’d expect from many faceless corporations, but from a company that built a proud and wholly deserved reputation through pure engineering integrity, it makes me shudder.

Read more about Honda's decision to cancel the new NSX

 

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About Andrew Frankel

Talents are limited to "driving cars and writing English." In 19th century France he would, therefore, have been stuffed; as it is, Andrew's the perfect Autocar road test writer.

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RobotBoogie December 17, 2008 12:48 PM

"But the bit I really don’t get is why it’s been axed."

At a point in time when hundreds of thousands of people in the motor industry stand to lose their jobs, I must admit to actually finding your glibness in the face of economic reality quite offensive.

TegTypeR December 17, 2008 12:52 PM

I don't think it was ever going to be a true replacement for the NSX, more of a heavy weight GT aimed at the American market.  I get the feeling it was more about leather and electrics rather than lightness and efficiency.  The configuration (front engined, RWD V10) hinted at that.

This could be a blessing in disguise.  Instead of getting a rather mediocre product, may be they will regroup and produce a true successor, something again that will set new class standards.  After all, it would be foolish of them to waste all of that development money.

manicm December 17, 2008 12:57 PM

Andrew, I agree with you 100% on the original NSX.

But really, how innovative was this new 'NSX' gonna be? I don't recall it being aluminium bodied. A V10 engine has already become an anachronism (BMW are likely to downsize the next M-cars), and of-course not being mid-engined there would be no warm and cuddly nostalgia either. And would it be as good, let alone better, than, say, a GT-R?

In some absurd way I'm glad they've canned it, as it seemed ill-conceived to begin with.

Peter Cavellini December 17, 2008 2:10 PM

I think i have the answer, maybe its because some one not a million miles away produced a vehicle that seats four, has a boot, has more technology in it AND  costs half the money!.... oh yes its a Nissan SKYLINE!!! just incase they can't hear that at HONDA!

scotty5 December 17, 2008 2:15 PM

I hope Honda put every spare penny they have into cars like the FCX Clarity because that's where their future profits will come from.

Ploughing money into a lossmaker toy for the super-rich? it's not exactly the done thing in a shrinking market. It's fair enough to suggest Honda should look to the future, but if they don't stem their losses there won't be a future.

theop December 17, 2008 3:59 PM

One thing is certain though: Old NSX prices will be solid as a rock... Want a future classic like the 993? Get an NSX now....

I ve driven an early one actually. Back in 02 I was looking to buy a red K reg one for 17k. Should have done it...Fab feeling. Like a grown up Elise without the Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious issues that go with it...

Zeddy December 17, 2008 6:03 PM

To paraphrase:

"At a point in time when hundreds of thousands of people in the motor industry stand to lose their jobs, I must admit to actually finding your glibness in the face of economic reality quite petulant".

lambo1 December 17, 2008 6:28 PM

Dont agree with frankel at all- he's opinion is totally at odds with a sensible company trying to make sensible decisions in an incredibly tough market and trying to get rid of cars that will only be bought at the top end- I aplaud Honda

brompton December 17, 2008 6:53 PM

Whatever the merits of the old or proposed NSX supercars for the rich cannot be the only measure of engineering capability or integrity.  The NSX might be on the top ten car designs but wouldn't the Mini, 2CV or the Beetle be on it too??

manicm December 17, 2008 8:49 PM

Brompton, you're missing the point - that 18 years ago the NSX single-handedly, out of leftfield and almost brazenly shut most other mid-engined sports cars up, and Porsche additionally. Trust me, this car left Ferrari and 348 owners in tears.

And all this from a maverick. Just like a little earlier when Lexus dropped a bomb on luxury saloons - wouldn't say it blew them away but certainly made Merc and BM look twice, Audi was long out of range at the time (the brilliant A8 came 4 years later).

Driving December 18, 2008 7:43 AM

A V-Tec V10 from Honda would have been a historical engine. Just think of the current Type-R K20 2.0 200+ hp engine, doubled and add another 20%. How sharp the car would have been we will never find out although I am pretty sure some would just buy it for the engine. I do agree that is would not be a direct replacement of the NSX but closer to a refined idea off the S2000, another interesting car.

A huge miss this one.

Borneo

slackboy December 18, 2008 7:52 AM

How much of this article is coloured by Andrews (evident) love of the previous NSX.

When reviewed by autocar the original only scored 3 1/2 stars www.autocar.co.uk/.../204197

and they said that "you do not feel so utterly at one with the NSX as you do with a 348."

It also seems to me, as others have said, that the new NSX  wouldn't have been a true successor but more a GT in the mould of an merc SL or Nissan GT-R.

Chunkster December 18, 2008 8:27 AM

I'm showing my age here. But my very first copy of AUTOCAR was the issue when Peter Robinson tested the Honda NSX. If my memory serves me correctly, it was 1991. I was in junior high school then and a copy of sea-freight AUTOCAR cost AUD$3.90 in Sydney Australia.

I wished Honda to have persevere with the car and release it in 2009 or 2010. But I was rather disappointed to learn that it will be a front-engined car. The motoring world has so much fondness of the original mid-engined NSX. I personally think Honda made a mistake when they decided to put the engine into the front and make a Japanese Corvette.

Contrary to other bloggers, I do not believe a V10 engine is an anarchronism. You either need a big capacity naturally-aspirated V8 or V10 engine or a biggish turbocharged V6 in order to give the desired performance. The original NSX was criticised from the very begining that it lacked 60bhp to make it a truly great Ferrari-beating sportscar.

pdmc December 18, 2008 8:47 AM

Please!  The only people who will truly lament the fact that this car has been canned are the original people responsible for the concept, those employed to develop it, the motoring hacks who get to drive it for free and the fans & current owners of the previous model.  For the man on the street it is far more relevant for Honda to invest its money, talents and resources in the design and development of cars for the ordinary joe.  It would be calamitous for Honda to launch a new GT car into a market it has previously struggled, and made a per unit loss, in compared to the big hitters - particularly during a recession.  Even Porsche has had to slow or stop production lately so clearly even the rich are being more cautious about where they spend their hard (or easy) earned.  I think cars like this new NSX are fantastic halo models for any manufacturer to have in their line up.  They add exclusivity, kudos and excitement to what are often otherwise often quite insipid line ups.  However, Honda doesn't need the NSX right now as much as they may have needed it even a few short weeks ago.  Honda already has Type-R models that could shame many sports cars of a purportedly superior pedigree.  Anyway, right now Honda need a line up of models that appeal to the average joe by offering economy, quality and competence at a competitive, value for money asking price while also offering the consumer a more ecological approach to motoring.  Those ordinary cars are Honda's bread and butter and it now has no plans to launch what could potentially be a loss making product into an increasingly hostile marketplace during a recession.  Remember the BMW 8 Series Coupe of the early 90's?  Even BMW had its fingers burned with the timing of that one.  The original NSX was also spectacularly badly timed, regardless of its brilliance.  Honda canned the NSX because it needs the money its got right now for the stuff that will keep it alive until we the world recovers - while consumers and banks sit on their cash -  for the development of those bread and butter ranges.  Its a matter of cold, clinical economic fact.  It is the right thing to do.  Honda has not gotten to where it is today by making stupid, ill informed or petulent decisions.  To advise that they do otherwise or deride them for making this obviously very painful decision to halt development of this clearly fabulous car, is nothing short of blatant, willful, ignorance & stupidity.

theop December 18, 2008 7:09 PM

I hate myself for it, but I agree with pdmc. Its the way fwd for Honda... Now where is that autotrader?

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