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Jun 04 2009

F1 poised to go nuclear

Alan Henry
You might think that Gordon Brown has got his problems, but Max Mosley could be about to trigger a seismic F1 meltdown which will make our prime minister’s little difficulties look like a walk in the park. 

Yesterday, in an interview with the respected Swiss racing magazine Motorsport Aktuell, Mosley dramatically raised the stakes in his confrontation with the Formula One Team’s Association by telling the nine teams who submitted their entries en bloc last Friday, that if they don’t like the new rules then they had better push off and make their own arrangements for their own separate championship.



“We(the FIA) have been running Formula One for the past 60 years and will continue to do so,” said Mosley, who advised the teams who want a new Concorde agreement signed before 12 June, the day on which the governing body is scheduled to confirm who has been granted an entry and who has not.

I don’t wish to pour scorn on the sport’s governing body, but when the March team, which hasn’t existed since 1993, was announced as one of the organisations to have submitted an entry, I burst out loud laughing.  There are a lot of very serious professional teams who have submitted entries for the F1 championship in 2010, but most of them have as much chance of getting a proper Grand Prix team on the road as I have. 

Not because they are not competent, but because the very problem which Mosley has been seeking to address – ie acute lack of money – affects these small organisations every bit as much as the established teams. 

If Mosley ends up by kicking the top teams out, does anybody seriously think that half the substitute teams entered, such as Litespeed and Campos, could really put their hands on 40m euros to get an F1 team off the ground for the start of next year?  

With respect, I certainly don’t, and it is ironic that the arguments for cost containment which have been one of Mosley’s more credible initiatives in recent years could yet blow up in his face and bring the whole business collapsing around his ears. It won’t, of course, because there will be a compromise. But in the meantime the sport is painting itself into an idiotically embarrassing corner.

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Comments

Dave Ryan June 4, 2009 11:18 AM

Fair comment Alan. However, it could also be argued that the behaviour of the FOTA teams in this affair has been akin to that of a child throwing its toys out of the pram as well. The two-tier system, granted, was a mistake, but at the moment this looks exactly like 1982 again. Any attempt to change the regulations to reduce the cost of F1 (which is ridiculously high) has been viciously opposed, despite the teams all saying that costs need to come down. They only want to do so on their own terms, irrespective of the fact that their own terms aren't entirely grounded in reality; signing a new Concorde Agreement in 8 days being the latest example. In the end, the FIA as governing body has the right to set the rules, and if the teams don't like that then with respect that's tough.

On the issue of raising 40m Euros for new teams, I'd say there'll be plenty of sponsors jumping ship if teams actually do pull out of F1...

breza June 4, 2009 11:20 AM

The Old Nazi is lost in his own maze... He doesn't like the richest teams, but he also laughs to the poor...

Just go away Moz, go away and never come back!!!!

TegTypeR June 4, 2009 11:44 AM

If all the teams agree cost cuts need to be made, what figure have they would like for the capping?

Why doesn't Mosely bring in a policy which sees budgets being reduced by 20 million Euro's each year starting at 80 million Euro's next year, bringing it down to the target 40 million in 2012.

Everyone wins.

Splash n Dash June 4, 2009 11:48 AM

Go away and set up you own series! Isn't that what Max is doing in effect by letting all these new teams enter the sport. Nobody will be fooled into thinking that F1 next year with these teams will remain F1 as we all understand/expect it to be.

Does Max think that by having teams who are reviving historic names and showing old F1 footage will be enough to convince people they are the same team from the old days?

If these teams (some of them) really wanted to be in F1 they would have made attempts to get in before they could have done it on the cheap. They just see it as a business opportunity and not for the pursuit of racing perfection. This is simply wrong. Sir Frank wouldn't want to be in a series with these people if he had the chance to get out.

Winston June 4, 2009 12:08 PM

I don't understand why there is a budget cap initiative at all. The cost of competing is self-regulating - if the money isn't there, they can't spend it.

Car manufacturers are in deep do-do at present and it will get worse before it gets better. The cost of competing will come down without regulation.

As it is, this meddling just makes both sides look pretty stupid.

Hookey June 4, 2009 12:42 PM

Alan should remember that one of the greatest eras of FI was when the Ford Cosworth was the normal power-pack and that most of the grids were made up of small teams. The racing was very close with large grids and I don't see why that won't return if "the big names" pull out

Orangewheels June 4, 2009 12:50 PM

"Compromise?"

Nope, not heard that word before.

Anyone (FIA and Fota included) know what it means?

No, Thought not.

VDG.CZ June 4, 2009 1:44 PM

What would happen if FIFA will try to influence the budget of ManU. or Chelsea? that would be very funny. Is the 40mil budget including drivers salary? What about driver transfers? Will Hamilton become unsalable? I remember when FIA(mosley) scratched WRC specification in all competitions except World champ. because Rallye was becoming more popular then F1. Before that I could go behind my house and watch 25 WRC cars on Barum Rallye. That was fantastic. Make that Cryptofasistic Shithead finally shut up. PLEASE            

tommallett June 4, 2009 1:59 PM

not being funny but this is no place to make fascist/nazi connotations. Please shut up and go away if you are going to.

itsthatruth June 4, 2009 2:04 PM

If the top teams leave then I'm pretty sure the major sponsors will follow.

What I don't get is why they changed the regualtions and then started saying they want to reduce costs, makes no sense to me as each team has spent millions to develope the new stuff.

If F1 is full of small teams with small budgets then the sponsors will want to pay less, less money means less to spend and so on.

They ( FIA ) should enforce standards parts, such as the tub, the aero pack, the gearbox and suspension parts. Then let the teams do what the want with the engines, brakes and Kerrs.

Or just bring back turbo's, too much power means more overtaking.

Pity Bernie can't put his hand in his pocket and offer more cash to the lower end teams, he could adopt the NFL model where all sponsor money, merchandise etc is split eqaully betweeen all entries.

itsthatruth June 4, 2009 2:07 PM

Hookey,

What era are you referring to, I wasn't aware Ferrari had ever used a cossy engine.

The closest racing was the turbo era, 1.5litres and 1300bhp or 3.0 and no turbo.

VDG.CZ June 4, 2009 3:03 PM

To tommallett: Sorry for that, he isn´t.

tommallett June 4, 2009 4:09 PM

thanks, sorry for being so up tight. It just must be a hard gig having that on your birth certificate.

404notfound June 4, 2009 7:14 PM

What will be interesting is what will the BBC do?  They have signed a contract for X amount of years (presumably).  If the major (or even all) the teams leave then F1 won't be F1 anymore, it will be a new championship full of teams the majority of people have never heard of.  The sponsors will go as well, of course.  But the BBC will be left with something they have shelled out a lot of our money for - with no one watching!  Would the BBC renege on the contract - pointing out that it was not what they signed up for?  After all, whatever becomes of the new championship (with Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull etc) will command a decent fee for TV rights.  Oh, this is going to be interesting.  Eh, Mosley, do you want any more paint for that corner old son?

kdwilcox June 4, 2009 7:30 PM

Max is right the FIA have run F1 for 60 years,but for most of that time he was not in charge,thank god.

There is only one way to sort this problem out!,the 9 big teams should say,ok,bye.

Then lets see what Max would do when Monaco closes,as does Monza and one or two others close as well because very few people will pay over £100 to see second rate teams,race.

Then those that back the teams with millions for advertising space pull out.

Plus of course very few would bother to watch the races on TV.

Max the idiot has to be made to understand that you can not go round telling multi million pound companies what they must do with out sitting down and takling about it.

Then the problems can be sorted out.

The man is mad and has always been mad,the sooner he is kicked out the better.

kd

Fred Dagg June 5, 2009 1:29 AM

Arrogance on a truly galactic level.

I'm not a Ferrari fan, I believe their politicing over the years, although maybe entertaining to the casual observer, has been detrimental to the sport. However I'm with them all the way on this one.

How many people does the Ferrari team employ at the moment? 1000+? To cut their budget by 75%-ish over the off season would mean laying of 75% of the staff, give or take a few. Extrapolate that out across all the big teams and that's an awful lot of people suddenly out of work. Just because Max wants to make it easier for smaller teams to join in. Thanks Max.

Has he noticed there is a recession on? Unemployment on the up and all that.

A previous poster mentioned that there is no need for a budget cap.

I agree. Natural attrition will sort it all out eventually.

Toyota and probably Renault will "do a Honda" and sell out. Smaller private teams will swoop in and "do a Brawn".

Rule stability should come first and only then look at reducing budgets.

I've always thought that big car manufacturers have no place in F1. As engine suppliers they can get just as much out of the sport for a fraction of the cost.

FD

theop June 5, 2009 2:43 PM

Galactic arrogance! Like the expression. I was going to say that Mosley is proving to be a monumentally suicidal idiot (as well as a kinky old pervert) that makes JM Balestre look like a monk in comparison (god bless his soul).

The Balestre wars of the late 80s are well documented and at the time we thought it would be inconceivable to have a worse person on the FIA/FISA front.; Enter stage left Maxy boy...

Go to hell Mr Mosley. Enough is enough you idiot...

blazing walker June 5, 2009 3:33 PM

Q. How badly does F1 need to see the back of MM and BE?

A. More than can be expressed in words.

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