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May 22 2009

Ecclestone plays hardball with Ferrari

Alan Henry
Bernie Ecclestone is poised to play what could be his trump card in the political F1 battle involving Ferrari and the FIA by reminding the legendary Italian team that they may have to pay back millions of dollars in commercial rights income if they carry out their threat to withdraw from the F1 World Championship in 2010.

Ferrari has threatened to quit in protest at the planned £40m budget cap being imposed on the teams by the sport’s governing body. But Ecclestone, discussing the matter on Renault team principal Flavio Briatore’s yacht at Monaco, has pointed out that the Prancing Horse has an ongoing commercial commitment to the sport until the end of 2012.



Ferrari has a special deal which gives them 5 per cent off the top of the reputed $1 billion (£660m) annual commercial rights cake before it is divided up amongst the teams. Then they get their normal share as well, a deal which Ecclestone offered them in order to bind them into F1 for the long term. 

Ecclestone yesterday said the Italian team would be expected to honour the terms of the Concorde Agreement last signed by Ferrari and the other teams in January 2005.

"We would always respect our contracts," said Ecclestone in Monaco for Sunday's grand prix. "All the teams that have signed contracts with us would expect us to respect them and we would expect the same from Ferrari. They are saying they are going to walk, we are saying we hope they respect their contract."

Luca di Montezemolo, the Ferrari supremo, may think he can get the upper hand over FIA president Max Mosley, but if he thinks he’s going to outflank Ecclestone he clearly has been taking his eyes off the road.

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Comments

The Colonel May 22, 2009 12:30 PM

So...what?  The Ferrari board are a group of mindless morons that hadn't considered the contractural consequences of withdrawing...didn't bother to consult their lawyers on the issue...just went headlong like a petulant five-year old without any thought to the outcome.  Good grief.

Ferrari's absence, and that of other teams, from F1 will hurt Bernie Ecclestone much more than it will hurt them.

Audi Tastic May 22, 2009 12:35 PM

Why they cant just acknowledge costs have to be brought down and sit round a table and sort something out is beyond me!

Although Ferrari agreeing to a level playing field in F1 where it doesn't receive more cash and more of an advantage than anyone else will never happen...

Maybe I've answered my own question there!

Lanehogger May 22, 2009 12:37 PM

What a farce F1 really is behind the actual racing. The FIA, and some teams, would do well to see what the consequences were when the IndyCar Series split into 2 factions years ago when there was a falling out.

And they could also take a leaf out of their rules to see how you can have close competitive racing using virtually equally advanced cars on a fraction of the budget of F1.

Richard H May 22, 2009 12:45 PM

Favouring one team over the others was always going to cause this

Everyone is running around like headless chickens (or horses)

Why can't they just agree things and get on with it.

The top teams always rise to the top

W124 May 22, 2009 1:22 PM

The horse is prancing...  Prancing! - nuff' said.  Eedjits.

scrap May 22, 2009 2:23 PM

Lanehogger,

F1 is a farce full stop. So, Ferrari get a $50m dowry every year, over and above everyone else, and people call this a sport?

A sport is a level playing field in which the best competitor will win, no?

trocadero May 22, 2009 2:40 PM

Back to my post on another thread, would Ferrari be whinging and posturing if they were leading the driver and constructor championships?

RacingPuma May 22, 2009 3:29 PM

I'm writing this before the Monaco meeting on Flav's boat.  It could go either way -

either

1) common sense breaks out and they hammer out a single set of technical rules which would allow a £40m team to be competitive (unlike now where a £70m team struggles to score a single point in a season) but not dominant (as they would be with exclusive use of moveable rear wings).

or

2) Ferrari go to the EU to enable them to walk away without penalty.  The FIA shot themselves in the foot in the Paris court case. In defeating Ferrari, the FIA had to admit operating outside the EU "Nice Convention".

This protects sports governing bodies from EU interference, but only on the basis of "democratic and transparent method of operation" If Ferrari go to an EU court, they will probably rule that the FIA is not a proper sports govrening body and all hell will break loose.

404notfound May 22, 2009 4:06 PM

What some appear to have forgot is that Ferrari signed that contract when F1 was as it is - under present rules.  Any lawyer worth his salt will successfully argue that the substantial change in rules means his client has no obligation to fulfil the contract.  Ecclestone must know this, as Ferrari do.  So this is just about publicity, nothing more.  Alonso is now saying he'll go if Ferrari pull out (no doubt to drive for them in whatever series they choose).  This is getting absurd, and it's Mosley's fault.  He and the poison dwarf should look to back down before irrepairable damage is done to F1.  No matter who you are a fan of, F1 won't be F1 next season if Ferrari, Toyota, Alonso et al pull out.  Some new back-street garage teams won't be able to enter until two years away, and their names are not going to register with anyone very much.  Let's cut the nonsense.

freethinker May 22, 2009 4:29 PM

I am not british but I really appreciate Autocar (which I've read since my childhood that is for the last 65 years or so as my father was selling MGs and other british cars) and I certainly have nothing against britons but I cannot help noticing that 1/most opinions from commentators (not only on F1) are a little bit too nationalistic, 2/most people involved in all aspects of F1 are british, 3/F1 has evolved pretty much like most british business that is with and exceedingly great emphasis on money and importance given to lawyers. This puts us rather far from what F1 used to be, and I see it as a pity. It seems to me that for sure F1 can get along without Ferrari (but I enjoyed a lot owning and driving a Ferrari for a few years), as well as FIA can get along without Max and the F1 circus without Bernie. So something totally new will clearly evolve out of the current crisis just because the world has changed (e.g : is not china the biggest automotive market now ?) but I really hope that the "show" side of F1 will not totally prevail and technical prowess will not pushed out of the picture: there must be an ultimate formula (F1 or something else) where the best possible engineering is freely permitted, or else we will end up having the only option of watching races run on ovals with identical cars. Who remembers that in the first place F1 was a constructor championship ? (drivers could change cars during a race)

Let us cross fingers !

simonb22@hotmail.com May 22, 2009 7:10 PM

Tend to agree with 404notfound... any court - any where in the World - would agree that Ferrari's agreement is null and void c/o Max's interference in the rules.

Ferrari signed up when the rules stated that everyone played to the same technological rules - rules that Ferrari perhaps had a hand in forming via the veto.

The rules have been changed by one man and his quango and that invalidates the agreement.  

Bernie - if you want to take them on - and lose, feel free!  I'm looking forward to Ferrari and Mercedes taking on Audi and Peugeot at Le Mans where there is substantial freedom in the rules and no budget cap!

kdwilcox May 22, 2009 8:11 PM

Bernie,all this is rubbish,if all the main teams pull out as they have said they will,there will be no F1.

Then mate ,if that happens  blame that idiot Mosley no one else.

How in gods name can the costs be cut by over 100m

in just a few months,mad.

At the end of the day,all the main teams should pull  out and tell Mosley to jump in the cut.

Both Bernie and Mosley must be made to understand without the main teams there is no F1.

Costs must of course be cut,but over, shall we say 5years.

A cut of £15M a year for the big teams,the small teams stay as they are,whats the problem with that????.

With luck Mosley and Bernie will see sense,if not,i hope the main teams pull out.

kd

404notfound May 22, 2009 8:51 PM

And now (news tonight) all the teams are apparently uniting against the budget cap.  So, if that's true, then this can only go one way, and that means a huge climb down by Mosley and the poison dwarf.  Ha ha ha.

glorfindel May 23, 2009 9:36 AM

I don't understand why Autocar speaks about Ferrari only, when most of the teams are against the budget cap. You are reducing all the affair into a dispute between Ferrari and Fia, Italy and UK.

And this seems unfair to me.

Foilball May 24, 2009 11:11 AM

glorfindel, I hardly think Autosport is making a nationalistic issue out of this. Ferrari are mainly spoken about in this affair as they were the first, and biggest, team to go public with the quit threat. Secondly Ferrari, as has been pointed out, are the only team which initiated independant leagal action. So it is fair to assume that Ferrari are the ring leaders here.

Also to characterise the FIA as a British organisation is a bit silly. Just because Max is a Brit it does not mean the whole body is. Heck their HQ is in Paris and even their name is French. (Not suggesting they are purely French either, before I get a hammering, just making a point.)

VDG.CZ May 26, 2009 9:26 AM

Bernie is playing into the hands of impoverished Frankie Williams(also British, but not so successful lately). He´s first one to sign a pay and say not a word. He surely does not have same cash as in 90´s. And that´s the collision. Two of three most famous teams, one does it for car improvement and success in racing(fame and glory), Williams just for the success(which is not coming). McLaren stays somewhere between. So what should Ferrari do when they lose half motivation!        

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