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Aug 25 2009

Volvo should be worried by the Skoda Superb estate

Hilton Holloway
It’s amazing to think that the Skoda Octavia was launched as far back as 1996 (though it took another 18 months to arrive in the UK).

Even though the Berlin wall had only been down six years, Skoda had been bought by VW, built a new factory and turned out a very competitive Golf-based hatch.



Read about the Skoda Superb estate here

I was at the launch in Prague (co-incidentally, Michael Jackson was playing his first Czech concert within earshot) and the Skoda PR announced that the ‘new’ Skoda would be targeting Rover and Volvo.

It’s a statement that has stuck in mind ever since.

At the time both Rover and Volvo were attempting to push themselves upmarket. Rover (‘Above all, it’s a Rover’) was well into engineering the 75 and Volvo was knocking off its hard corners with plusher new models such as the S/V40 and S/V70.

I suppose Skoda was thinking about practical family cars that were a cut above the mainstream, but didn’t have premium pretensions. The sort of cars that Volvo had been building, but were now keen to leave behind. It seems Skoda’s strategy was spot-on.

Last year Skoda sold a bit over 700,000 cars and is making good progress in new markets including India and China. Rover, in stark contrast, is long-gone, a victim of failed upmarket pretensions and an inability to make any money.

Volvo is struggling. It’s currently up for sale, jobs have been slashed, annual sales have slid to under 400,000 and its suffered big cash losses in the crucial US market.

And you only have to take one look at the Superb estate to see why Volvo has another headache on the way.

Skoda’s new load-lugger is huge and, judging by the saloon, will be very well made and good to drive. Spec for spec, it’ll also be significantly cheaper than the V70.

It is the ideal car for practically minded people who regard their car as a tool, rather than a lifestyle statement. The Superb estate will appeal to those drivers used to buy old-school Volvos or, more likely, are still running them and need a new car.

Volvo’s latest TV ad for the XC60 states that ‘There’s more to life than a Volvo’. Is this a belated realization that Volvo’s target buyers are not that bothered by beautifully finished, Scandinavian-influenced interiors and that they want robust, unpretentious, practicality?

It’s something that Skoda realized a long time ago.

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About Hilton Holloway

Has two product design degrees and used to design mountain bikes. Realised that cars were a lot more interesting in 1990, and has been writing about them ever since.

Comments

noluddite August 25, 2009 6:00 PM

I agree. The country set (once Volvo's target market, and to some extent still sought) do want 'robust, unpretentious, practicality'. Throw in 4WD and a decent diesel and Skoda will be onto a real winner. However,one thing may still hold them back. Volvo has an upmarket image. Skodas are still seen as a poor mans VW.

theonlydt August 25, 2009 6:11 PM

I still love the look, feel, performance and economy of many modern Volvos, but if I was buying then 90% of the time my money would go to Skoda... The other 10% of the time is because VAG refuse to give Skoda access to the newest engines when they desperately need them (only now are common-rail diesels coming through and TSI petrols for the octavia. When will they get to the fabia, roomster etc?)

Lee23404 August 25, 2009 6:15 PM

Volvo makes some nice cars but they have no usp. They may be a cut above the likes of Ford/Vauxhall but they can't compete on image with the usual German suspects. They are quite well built but no better than the superb and probably less reliable. They are safe but no longer any safer than most of the competition. They have a nice interior but most competitors are pretty good these days (love Volvo seats though).

To be honest, looks apart I can't think of a single reason to go for a V70 over a Superb. In fact I think the new e-class may lose a few sales, though probably not in badge obsessed Britain.

Marky13 August 25, 2009 7:13 PM

Seriously who actually chooses a Skoda...?

Lets see who can remeber the most old jokes..

What do you call a Skoda witha sunroof? A Skip.

manicm August 25, 2009 7:29 PM

The Skoda Superb is probably UK's best kept secret for badge snobs - I'd take one over a Mondeo just for its space and unique looks.

Vectra32 August 25, 2009 7:42 PM

Marky13: You are right, they are OLD jokes

Volvophile August 25, 2009 7:51 PM

The new Superb is in my honest opinion one of the worst looking cars launched this decade.  It's absolutely vile!

I think Volvo should leave their estate car image behind anyway.  They only gained that image they have today from the 70's and 80's with cars like the 200 and 900 Series.  Before that they produced beautiful cars like the P1800 and I think that's what they should start harking back to.  If Skoda really want to do the sensible thing that badly then let them.

Lee23404 August 25, 2009 7:57 PM

Volvophile-you say Skoda are doing the sensible thing badly yet they have sales which Volvo can only dream of. Not too bad then eh?

Robbijay August 25, 2009 8:37 PM

Lee - A VAG group product being more reliable than a Volvo? It's seems from a lot of other web based forums that owners are leaving VAG behind because of their lack of reliability. I'm pretty sure the only reason Skoda sell so many is because people think they're getting German 'reliability' at a cheap price.

I've driven 3 Volvo's over 100k for 8 years (I'm 27, so a big proportion of my driving career) and the only (non wear & tear item) to break was the useless Renault M3P gearbox Volvo fitted to the 440 for some stupid reason).

Obviously I've just jinxed that now and the engine's going to fall out of my S60 tomorrow.

Volvophile August 25, 2009 8:41 PM

No, you misunderstood me.  I wasn't saying Skoda were doing the sensible thing badly at all.  When I said 'badly' I meant that they appear to be overly eager to to be the new sensible car brand that Volvo once were.

I'm not denying Volvo's sales are poor right now.  They launched poor products in the form of the current S80 and V70 which are in no way a big enough step over their predecessors to be competitive in today's market.  Volvo thrived off the success of cars like the V70 and the current model lacks real innovation that made the previous V70 stand out in the market.  Add that to the fact that rival estate cars are getting bigger and Volvo are allowing themselves to be overtaken in the segment they once dominated.

RSkoda August 25, 2009 9:45 PM

To: Noluddite; the Superb estate should have the 170BHP common rail diesel and 4x4 as options - that hatch does.

To: Theonlydt; Roomster and Fabia get a facelift early next year including new engines.

I reckon the Superb estate looks much better than the hatch and from the teaser shot looks like it should be pretty nice looking for an estate. Nicer than a Volvo in fact, quite Audi :)

nicfaz August 25, 2009 10:14 PM

@ Robbijay

Skoda have the best reliability of the VAG group - they commonly come in the top 5 of reliability surveys.  I had a Fabia for 4 years and nothing went wrong.  

mullogutherum August 25, 2009 10:58 PM

Skoda's relatively better reliability is likely a result of their last-in-queue position for new technology, within the VAG family.  

I appreciate the on-paper benefits of Twinchargers and umpteen-speed DSG boxes, but I'd rather put my hard-earned cash into something thoroughly sorted.

daddy 3 August 25, 2009 11:18 PM

Give it 2 or 3 years and you will see quite a few more Superbs on the road,companies are looking to cut back costs and if there is a vehicle thats going to give BMW/MERC/AUDI OR VOLVO size proportions for 25%less cash then the insentive will be to buy Skoda Superbs.Ok they may have some snob issues to deal with but as i say give it 2 to 3 years. 20 years ago they were selling Rapides and Estells,just look how far they have come in terms of vehicles and quality.

MadFer August 25, 2009 11:19 PM

Awww well, guess nobody has seen the difference between a pear and an apple... How to compare??

Well, both are cars, but that's all. Truth... Volvo's sells can't compare with Skoda's, remember there's "LITTLE" price difference, and as I see things, they're after very different targets... Can't again compare the evolution of the market of VW or PSA perhaps, any european brand with Hyundai-Kia for ex.

Don't be blind and see the the things as complete and objective as possible.

(Have u seen how big have been BMW losses?, perhaps, are BMW bad and poorly reliable cars??' I don't think so.).

Mad Fer

Citytiger August 26, 2009 7:44 AM

I think the problem with both brands is the stigma attached to them, Volvo are boring square boxes that old people and antique dealers drive, Skoda are a joke eastern European brand that fall to pieces. However neither of these comments are true reflections of the modern product.

Much the same that people buy BMW's because they think they are the ultimate driving machine (which again is not true), Or they wish everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen, again not true.

Skoda are selling plenty of cars, granted with plenty of new customers, especially taxi drivers. However I believe Volvo sales are mostly repeat customers with the odd new sale from buyers who are looking to upgrade from more mainstream manufacturers but are put off with the Image BMW and certain other (German) brands are starting to attract, they also do not perhaps want to seem brash, Volvo is seen as a sensible choice whilst VW is not upmarket enough to impress the neighbours.

Marky13 August 26, 2009 8:32 AM

What do you call a Skoda with dual exhausts?

A wheelbarrow.

A2 August 26, 2009 8:44 AM

Why do Skoda's have heated rear windscreens?

To keep you hands warm when your pushing it.

TegTypeR August 26, 2009 9:51 AM

Skoda have it 100% right.  The big estate market has been abandoned by most manufacturers in favour on MPV's and cross overs.  Volvo is no different.  What manufacturers need to realise that it's all very well having aspirations but their core customer base still need to be serviced.

Andrew Lee August 26, 2009 10:11 AM

At least this looks less ugly than the saloon. Which is almost perversely styled... Someone in Autocar compared that to the Flying Spur! Actually I think it's the spiritual successor to the Morris Marina/Ital - the heavy rear end especially. But the dual-action boot is genius IMHO. Will it be more celebrated now that BMW have copied it on the 5 Gran Turismo?

bangertastic August 26, 2009 10:33 AM

IMO, Volvo have been butchered by Ford. They tried to take them up market to squeeze every last drop out of the brand.

Volvo should have stuck to their core skills of making incredibly high quality understated and durable cars. It would have given Audi customers somewhere to go when the modern 'LED wearing' products appeared.

A2 August 26, 2009 12:39 PM

I drive an Audi A2. A smashing little car but I have had a lot of reliabilty issues, so like many others here I'm not that convinced VAG products are any more reliable than Volvo or any other of the mainstream manufacturers.

However I have a growing family and between child and dogs I need to move to something a bit bigger. My wife wouldn't be seen dead in an SUV or MPV so that really leaves the estate as my only option. I have looked at the various different options, Volvo V50, Audi A4 Avant, BMW 3 series Touring etc and I am actually quite attracted to the Volvo. The new Seat Exeo estate also has my interest. I loved the previous model A4 avant and its relative compactness but like bangertastic I am not all that enamoured with the  current model. Its a bit bland and big for my taste.

I think a Superb estate would be a bit big for me and I do like the Octavia estate but its my wife who uses our car the most that the badge snob in my house.

Robbijay August 26, 2009 1:32 PM

@Nicfaz

I don't doubt they are the most reliable of the VAG group. They have to be good to try and get over the unfortunate stigma that some people still attach to the Skoda brand (much the same as people who have never had a T5 or R still think that Volvo's are for old fuddy duddys and antiques dealers). I'm not trying to knock the VAG group, my sister has a Seat Leon and I love it. I just get waay too defensive about my Volvo (mainly due to the above stereotype, even though I'm still young).

@CityTiger

Yes most Volvos are repeat sales because people who've already owned them know how good they are (although some dealers are shocking). Whereas some people would rather spend the money on a base 3 series with a tiny engine because it's a BMW, and the rear wheel drive makes a huge difference driving to the supermarket to get some milk!

Lee23404 August 26, 2009 1:47 PM

The new Superb (looks aside) is such a good product that it won't just be bought by cabbies. I know a few people with Audi's, BM's etc who are going to seriously consider the Superb. Partly to save a bit of cash (BM's aren't so cheap to lease these days) but also because they are bloody good cars.

They have admitted though that the major stumbling block is the image it portrays, particularly to clients. If they don't get one purely because of image then they're the ones who will be missing out.

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