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Feb 10 2009

Why Citroen needs to get creative

Richard Bremner

It’s quite possible that Citroen’s plan to produce a sub-set of DS-labelled niche vehicles using its mainstream hardware has been part-triggered by its inability to break its discounting habit.

The company appears to find it near-impossible to sell a car without a juicy incentive attached to it. Since Citroens aren’t that expensive in the first place, it’s easy to see that substantial profits are hard to come by.

So building some more desirable, lower-volume models sounds like a good way to improve its profit margins - provided we want them badly enough that Citroen doesn’t need to pay the VAT on the car to induce us to ink the cheque.

We might have to pay a little more for these Citroens, but we might want to, not least because they may encourage the company’s increasingly inspired design department to direct its creativity towards models that we can actually buy.

True, the C4, C4 Picasso, Pluriel and C6 are pretty stylish - strangely, the company seems to get little credit for that - but look at concepts like the Hypnos, the GT, the beautiful C-Metisse and C-Airdream, and it seems reasonable to get a little excited about what might come next.

Especially given the heavy hints that it is going to build something similar to the excellent C-Cactus. This is a quirky-looking car, like so many Citroens past, but unlike the company’s offerings of the past 20 years or so, it promises the possibility of innovations that go to the very core of the car.

These include reducing the number of components to cut weight and complexity, as well as the use of new materials and new propulsion systems. Citroen’s new slogan is ‘Creative Technologie’.

If it fully realises the potential of the C-Cactus, it might just earn the words. And there’s reason to be hopeful. Buried in the history section of the new website is a section on heritage, entitled ‘Different is Everything’ which also showcases some cars for tomorrow. The C-Cactus is there, with the line ‘if we build it we’ll be promoting 100mpg and the fact that its MP3 player doubles up as the starter key...’ So come on Citroen - create it, please.

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About Richard Bremner

Used to work for British Leyland; is now one of Autocar's most senior scribes. Despite having driven many vastly superior vehicles, he's currently hankering after a Triumph TR7.

Comments

ordinary bloke February 10, 2009 10:53 AM

Can't wait to see what they come up with as I've always thought their creative side should be allowed more free rein. One of the first Citroens that I drove after passing my test at 17 was my uncle's DS with a very (to me) confusing column gearchange. It was a fabulous car and I pestered my dad to get one instead of the Rovers that he liked. My first new car was a Visa, quirky but huge fun with a typically Citroen dashboard which worked brilliantly in use. dad later had a GS estate and a BX hatchback, both brilliant in their own way and memorable, not something that car be said of many new cars. I also use to occasionally have a drive of a boss' CX which was just plain weird but with a real magic carpet ride.

Citroen need to get back to making cars with the same spirit of innovation and interest that these past models had in abundance.  

TheStig February 10, 2009 12:37 PM

Bring it on Citroen! I'd love to see a new Citroen that is actually different from every other car on the road. That is what made it famous and that is what will keep the company alive. I would like to see a production version of the fantastic GT Concept - perhaps co-developed with Lotus for great handling.

Simonsays February 10, 2009 1:02 PM

I think the point here is that Citroen want to make money.

So how about this plan - Citroen, as Richard B says have some decent designs at the moment plus with quality almost, if not, as good as any other  manufacturer IMHO they should be able to successfully and consistently design good cars for the foreseeable future so really the problem lies in the marketing and sales side of thing and this includes pricing and discounting etc so sort this out add a decent market leading warranty and service deal say like Mini did with their TLC package and you should get consumers back to paying normal profitable prices.

The biggest irk for me is that PSA have decided Citroen need the premium designs - but why not leave them to create advanced cutting edge designs with the standard range as per they used to - instead invest the same time and money sorting out Peugeot who have so seriously lost their way that there cars - complete with their big black gallic moustaches - are quite visually offensive compared to what they did working with Pininfarina in the eighties.

Pinifarina also need some luck of late, so, PSA please give them a bell and let your own designers at Citroen create the mainstream cars the way are doing so well at present take inspiration from the concepts and don't trash your heritage for a fast buck - as it a) will cost you money and b) won't give you the sales lift you think it might and c) will confuse your potential customers.

Rant over.

:0)

ordinary bloke February 10, 2009 2:13 PM

I think Citroen should sell the new DS cars from separate showrooms - like BMW have done with the MINI range. It would allow them to create a more up-market ambiance and not let a potential customer feel contaminated by the "cheap" red and white look and heavy discounts.

jonfortwo February 10, 2009 2:39 PM

What is this obsession with looking backwards to move forwards!! - it drives me mad even if its just the name.

Just what do FIAT do when the 500 reaches the end , the VW the Beetle, Ford the Mustang etc etc. its a total style dead end.

The whole point of the 2CV and ID/DS is that they owed absolutely nothing to the past but where born out of the needs of the time.

theop February 10, 2009 4:37 PM

Citroen should be allowed to be as creative as... They should go nuts! Its the only thing they excel on...

Andrew Lee February 10, 2009 6:19 PM

What we're really talking about here is STYLING. I don't think Citroen has the will or money to come up with 'Creative Technologie' (sic). Instead we'll get more (slightly) eccentric-looking cars which are totally conventional (aka Peugeots) underneath. As for exploiting the truly iconic DS name - could it get any more tragic? That overstyled Mini clone (with Ford front end) is rubbish.

How about a return to 'elegant utility' (copyright: me!)  Truly radical 2CV, GS and DS successors: relatively low volume but high profit. And kicking off with that R8 rival to reinvigorate the 'brand'.

Phinehas February 10, 2009 6:27 PM

I don't have a problem with retro-style as long as it does actually go forwards too. Most of the recent retros have done this to a greater or lesser extent, and the world is a prettier place because of them. It's a good place to go because the Koreans can't follow. It's true, that it will lose its value in time, but it buys time.

But can it really be said that the DS3 shown at the head of the page is retro? I don't think so.

There have long been discussions on what name a premium PSA brand would use. DS seems to be a good move since none of the other old names carry much cachet. It's not a cynical move, it's not a ruse, it's using something from the company's past that everyone is familiar with. And who has more right to use it than Citroen? The burning question is, Can Citroen deliver? I really hope they can.

If they really let rip, with DS at one end, and Cactus at the other, boy, it'll be the 60s all over again (which, I seem to remember were in black and white - and I have photos to prove it). Bring it on daddy-o.

W124 February 10, 2009 9:23 PM

You've got to applaud the bravery.  The proof will be in the big cars - I'm not convinced by the little one shown above and can't help but thinking that this chunky kind of styling has lost it's freshness.  I'd really like to see some elegance.  The proportions of the C4 are spot on.  As are those of the C6.  You could say that the Prius and Insight are moving things back in that direction - small (steel with cool metal hubcaps if they've got the bottle) wheels and tapered rear ends with 70's colours is the way to go here.  The design above already looks dated to me.

I've got to agree with the above posters who argue that Citroen could stretch their range from top to bottom as they did in the glory days - but then I suppose they never made any money then...

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