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Jul 28 2010

Skoda inspires VW in the US

Matt Saunders
Interesting to be in the US this week with Volkswagen, and to hear the mighty German technological powerhouse admit that actually, low-cost simplicity is what’s needed to score success in North America.

“Truth is, we’ve been trying to push over-specified, over-engineered and over-priced cars on the American consumer,” said VW communications expert Christian Buhlmann. That’s quite a statement coming from a VW man, whose employer prides itself on innovation and engineering.



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“People who buy sub-$30,000 cars in the US aren’t looking for automatic parking brakes or direct injection engines.

“We know from our market research that they’d like to buy a VW, but can’t afford one because our cars have been at least 10 per cent over-equipped and over-priced for them. So we’re moving downmarket a little in order to tap into the market.”

That’s where the new Jetta comes in. US versions of this car will have a torsion beam back axle, old-fashioned hydraulic power steering, a hard plastic dashboard, torque converter autos instead of DSG ‘boxes and multi-point injection, normally aspirated petrol engines.

As a result of all that, however, they’ll be priced from under $16,000. VW will, for the first time, be able to offer an alternative to a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla saloon that doesn’t come with a cost penalty.

After the Jetta next year will come VW’s midsized saloon; codenamed ‘NMS’, it’ll be a Toyota Camry and Hyundai Sonata rival, but based on VW Golf mechanicals, it’ll be priced much more keenly that a VW Passat.

We won’t get the ‘NMS’ in Europe though – for one very good reason. “We’ve worked the ‘NMS’ trick once before in Europe,” Buhlmann says, “creating a big car on small car mechanicals, and to notable success: that’s what we did with the Skoda Superb.

“People assume the big Skoda must be based on Passat modules because of its size, when in fact it’s more closely related to a Golf.”

So there you have it: if VW really do strike it rich in the US, it’ll be thanks to a recipe it rehearsed in Europe via its budget brand Skoda.

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About Matt Saunders

Was a news boy, web reporter and general staff dogs body before two stints as Autocar’s features editor. Now holds enviable status as a road tester for the magazine that invented the format, and is developing a hankering for a fast motorbike.

Comments

supermanuel July 28, 2010 8:03 PM

“People assume the big Skoda must be based on Passat modules because of its size, when in fact it’s more closely related to a Golf.”

That's certainly not true of the first Superb is it? I thought that was a LWB Passat which was intended to become a Passat Plus until VW bottled it at the last minute and stuck a Skoda face on the front of it.

Does that mean the new Superb is more closely related to the Golf? How come? Is the new Passat going to be based on the Golf too?

Vili July 28, 2010 8:13 PM

"Does that mean the new Superb is more closely related to the Golf? How come? Is the new Passat going to be based on the Golf too?"

The current Golf, Superb and Passat share a lot of components. I can see the cheaper Superb sharing more parts with the Golf than Passat.

The new Passat will be just a facelift of the current one.

theonlydt July 28, 2010 11:02 PM

I don't see how Skoda "inspired" the new Jetta. The new Jetta uses torsion beam rear suspension and the base engine is a 115bhp 2.0 8valve that'd older than I am. Skoda don't pull that crap. Unfortunately in the North American market a big (this is bigger than the old one) saloon that's cheap sells, not a proper sized car that's performs (VW's last Jetta).

jamesdal July 28, 2010 11:16 PM

Oh dear, they all make this mistake don't they. Mercedes with the M, SLK, E, and C class of the late 1990's. Hopefully they isolate the crap to North America and give the rest of us the proper engineering for UK/EUROPE/AUSTRALIA

giulivo July 29, 2010 7:00 AM

Indeed the Superb 1 was based on the Passat/A4 (including the longitudinal mounted engine). Today VAG has abandoned "platforms" in favour of two modular "component boxes" (longitudinal and transversal) that underpin everything from Polo / Fabia to Passat / Superb / Sharan (transversal) and from A4 to A8/ Continental (longitudinal).

icsunonove July 29, 2010 8:42 AM

“Truth is, we’ve been trying to push over-specified, over-engineered and over-priced cars on the American consumer,” said VW communications expert Christian Buhlmann.

Isn't that exactly what VW is doing in Europe as well? With the only difference that people here are easy victims of the VW marketing machine and happily buy the over-priced cars.

Liam F July 29, 2010 9:22 AM

Easy victims? I think a willing victims are more accurately described as suckers.

Uncle Mellow July 29, 2010 10:22 AM

"US versions of this car will have a torsion beam back axle, old-fashioned hydraulic power steering,"

I presume you mean that modern hydraulic power steering is presurised by an electric pump , rather than being driven off the crankshaft pulley. I don't think there have been any pure electric systems that have met with Autocar's approval .

frarob July 29, 2010 12:24 PM

American consumer here - and owner of many modern VWs, mostly GTIs although there in a Passat wagon in my current stable. VW really needs to identify who and what it wants to be to American consumers - the CC is a lovely car, yet priced too high. I only think "GTI" when someone mentions the brand, and for good reason. Affordable, relatively economical and functional fun. I will say that each new generation has been less reliable than the previous, with frustrating problems like side and seat airbag "failure" warning lights. I've owned seven GTIs, including a pair of VR6s. I wish I held on to the 91 MarkII 2.0 16v...

spoolio July 29, 2010 1:34 PM

"I thought that was a LWB Passat which was intended to become a Passat Plus until VW bottled it at the last minute and stuck a Skoda face on the front of it."

According to details published when the Superb Mk1 was released it was basically a re-badged version of the LWB Passat that VW manufactured and sold exclusively in China.

"I don't see how Skoda "inspired" the new Jetta."

I think this is a classic case of a marketing-type guy saying something to fill a gap when really he would have been better staying silent.  Skoda take the best of the group tech and integrate it in a way that allows them to sell for example a D-segment car at a C-segment price.  This new-for-the-US VW school of thought seems to be more a mix of VW group ideas, Skoda: Big car for small car money, Seat: Reheated old-tech (a la Exeo), VW: Economies of scale.

Selling Americans a good value, solid, simple car eh?  Where have we heard that before?  Oh yeah, wasn't that the ethos behind the Beetle.  Perhaps they'd have been better referencing that rather than relating it to Skoda (a brand that I'd guess only a small number of clued up American consumers are aware of).

jch July 29, 2010 1:35 PM

Surely a $16,000 Jetta (say around £10,500 or 12,000 Euro) would sell very well in Europe too?

Straight Six Man July 29, 2010 3:21 PM

I think Veedub need this cheapened Jetta, but they also need a more upmarket model of similar size, with the latest hi-tech engines, multilink rear  end, etc.

Hughesynights July 29, 2010 5:18 PM

In Europe, if people want a cheap VW, they can buy a Seat or Skoda.

Many other supposedly global vehicles are sold with cheaper interiors and basic spec in NA. For example the Honda CR-V is 35% cheaper in the US than Europe, but is not comparable in quality.

Perhaps VW should offer options on the Euro Jetta:

- budget plastic interior 'hard touch'

- simple rear suspension

- delete all gadgets

- black plastic door handles and mirrors

I suspect people would go for these options to make the neighbours think they could afford a VW, but pay Seat price.

jackjflash July 30, 2010 1:57 PM

So they are getting rid of all the things that would make you consider buying VAG over the competition in the first place…Brilliant!

arpit July 30, 2010 8:36 PM

hey guys now a days ferrari is going on very well in indian market also

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Danii 123 August 2, 2010 3:22 PM

Skoda has just produced a set of record sales in the UK, so in Americas budget car rush , there is no reason why Skoda should fall flat on its face.

feckin maso August 10, 2010 4:28 PM

why not just introduce skoda to the market instead of cheapening their own brand, the superb would be the worlds taxi

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